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Quote: Tigerade "The local feeling in Castleford is very anti-wakefield district wise. Cas folk consider themselves more nearer to Leeds than Wakey and geographically we are just on the boundary i.e Allerton Bywater has a LS post code. Other than sharing the same local government we have zero in common.'"


Not wanting to be picky mate but i think you'll find that half of Allerton Bywater actually have the WF10 post code and Cas phone numbers but pay our rates to Leeds HTH icon_wink.gif

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Quote: The Clan "I agree about the atmosphere at the old grounds! the change in atmosphere at Belle Vue since the roofs went on has been astounding.

We'll always speculate about how great Belle Vue would be if we were to renovate rather than relocate, it's the same as speculating about how great the team would be if we hung on to our home produced players.

What if the new stadium was built with some sympathy toward that view, for example, what if there was a seated stand with 8 or 10 rows of terracing in front of it a la the East stand etc best of both worlds.'"

nice idea like it

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Quote: TRB "Whilst I understand your 'fears', I would reiterate that this has far more to do with delivering a business than anything else. NM offers a facility that will be far better utilised by our own Community groups, Dance teams etc - which all bring in revenue to the club - as well lending themselves out for rental to countless other bodies - even the RFL themselves - for training / corporate and social events. If we are to survive and thrive as a club - without a Sugar Daddy - then we are reliant upon this side of the business to make up the shortfall that ST's and gate receipts just can't provide.

Moving to NM is much more than just 'ticking a box', it is, and always was, envisaged as the total solution to our years of struggling.

This is 'essential', not a 'nice to have'!

Have to agree though - love BV on a sunny day - or a wet day for that matter!
how good would it of been if Thornes park could of been embraced in the same way as Newmarket

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My problem is that I need to know where we are playing in order that I am able to buy a house within walking distance of ground now that I have a grandchild and return home imminent.
Miraculously my wife agrees to that, especially if it is Newmarket, as we spent 13 happy years in Stanley.

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Quote: snowie "how good would it of been if Thornes park could of been embraced in the same way as Newmarket'"


Fantastic IMO - but I think we were in the minority unfortunately!

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Quote: jacques "My problem is that I need to know where we are playing in order that I am able to buy a house within walking distance of ground now that I have a grandchild and return home imminent.
Miraculously my wife agrees to that, especially if it is Newmarket, as we spent 13 happy years in Stanley.'"


Now THAT'S commitment! eusa_clap.gif

As for the issue of standing - I agree, and I seem to recall that NM has standing areas in the plans?

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Quote: snowie "how good would it of been if Thornes park could of been embraced in the same way as Newmarket'"


Thornes Park would have been an excellent option.
At the time there was heaps of resistance because it was "parkland" but there will be something built on the site at some point in the future and if the NIMBY's had ever seen the KC stadium and the leisure facilities at the side of it, then maybe it could have bee a goer. Pretty good access in different directions and only a short walk from the city centre.
The positive for everyone though is that Newmarket will provide more comprehensive facilities and improve the employment situation in Wakefield, which can only be a win/win situation.
How long should we keep the champagne on ice ?

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Quote: jacques "My problem is that I need to know where we are playing in order that I am able to buy a house within walking distance of ground now that I have a grandchild and return home imminent.
Miraculously my wife agrees to that, especially if it is Newmarket, as we spent 13 happy years in Stanley.'"

Should be some houses for sale on newmarket lane very soon icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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IMO Thornes Park was never Viable and was never more than a pipe dream to try to satisfy the RL & SL, poor traffic connections, poor parking, middle of a residential area, sounds a bit like BV to me, sorry but from the moment I saw the thornes plan I never thought it would come to fruition, NM if defo the better option, might not be the best one as I still feel the Durkar Jct 39 was the most viable option and we all know who put a stop to that icon_frustrated.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "IMO Thornes Park was never Viable and was never more than a pipe dream to try to satisfy the RL & SL, poor traffic connections, poor parking, middle of a residential area, sounds a bit like BV to me, sorry but from the moment I saw the thornes plan I never thought it would come to fruition, NM if defo the better option, might not be the best one as I still feel the Durkar Jct 39 was the most viable option and we all know who put a stop to that
The first bit is not right. It was a genuine attempt nd would have made an iconic location for a public facility IMO.

What cannot be denied is that we wouldn't have NM if we hadn't had Thornes!

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Quote: financialtimes "IMO Thornes Park was never Viable and was never more than a pipe dream to try to satisfy the RL & SL, poor traffic connections, poor parking, middle of a residential area, sounds a bit like BV to me, sorry but from the moment I saw the thornes plan I never thought it would come to fruition, NM if defo the better option, might not be the best one as I still feel the Durkar Jct 39 was the most viable option and we all know who put a stop to that

Majesticaly wrong and mis informed on the first bit, but then it's easy to knock things down after the event icon_rolleyes.gif Thornes was viable and in many ways is still better option than NM and way better than Durkar which has been explained on here many times was never an option - not ever - not even when Ted or Rodney miraculously owned it (which they never did but hey why ruin a good story)

The thing that did for Thornes was an all mighty recession - it's still going on I believe.

No public project as ambitious as Thornes would survive that. Yes there were NIMBY issues and other bit's and bobs not least who actually owned the land but they could be overcome - a total hold on public spending could not. The minute Northern Rock hit the rocks Thornes was over - had Thornes started two years earlier it might just have limped through a bit like Trinity Walk did.

Go on then, tell us who put a stop to Durkar?

However NM is it, last option - year zero so fingers crossed.

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Quote: financialtimes "IMO Thornes Park was never Viable and was never more than a pipe dream to try to satisfy the RL & SL, poor traffic connections, poor parking, middle of a residential area, sounds a bit like BV to me, sorry but from the moment I saw the thornes plan I never thought it would come to fruition, NM if defo the better option, might not be the best one as I still feel the Durkar Jct 39 was the most viable option and we all know who put a stop to that I wouldn't of thought that traffic connections would of been a problem as it could of been directed both ways form the ground and would of split at each end of the road making it far easier than it will at Newmarket,
parking now that puzzles me as there would of been more access to walking there than Newmarket so wouldn't of required the same size but could still handle the quantity.
to think that all sports would of been covered in one fantastic complex just baffles me why it never managed to glide through
Durker is very similar to Newmarket

still not be long not eh !!! icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: delboy66 "Not wanting to be picky mate but i think you'll find that half of Allerton Bywater actually have the WF10 post code and Cas phone numbers but pay our rates to Leeds HTH
Correct. I live in Allerton Bywater, pay rates to Leeds, have a councillor on Leeds Council and my son goes to a Leeds school. Also a Leeds Phone number, but WF post code. All of Allerton Bywater is in Leeds. Cas starts at Lock Lane.

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As soon as you leave Lock Lane going towards Allerton Bywater you cannot get away from the fact you are entering Leeds soil due to the Leeds City Council signage - owls coat-of-arms imediately when leaving Castleford. I would love Cas to put a sign the other way (entering Cas Vegas) with a Tiger badge welcoming our loiner friends to the town. icon_twisted.gif

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Quote: Tigerade "As soon as you leave Lock Lane going towards Allerton Bywater you cannot get away from the fact you are entering Leeds soil due to the Leeds City Council signage - owls coat-of-arms imediately when leaving Castleford. I would love Cas to put a sign the other way (entering Cas Vegas) with a Tiger badge welcoming our loiner friends to the town. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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