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Quote: GRLA "They should explain up front why the delay .Arent they supposed to be accountable to those who ultimately pay their wages?
Oops sorry, thought I was on planet Utopia for a moment, back there.
So much for Transparency of process'"


They should but they obviously don't feel the need to.

Still why do something today when you can do it next week and sponge a bit more money and a few more free lunches.

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Just looking on the trinity website regarding the delay there's a nice picture I haven't seen before of the new stadium, is that how it will actually look like, looks good

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We have waited this long whats a couple of days? Why did they delay it less than 24 hours before the due decision this messes with peoples head, don't agree with that. Common sense must surely prevail !!!

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "We have waited this long whats a couple of days? Why did they delay it less than 24 hours before the due decision this messes with peoples head, don't agree with that. Common sense must surely prevail !!!'"


Doesnt say anything about it being a delay of a couple days in the response to IA

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Knowing how lawyers and government departments work, if this is the reason for the delay, these are my thoughts on the delay:

Announcement pending on 19th June. Then the LDF thing was announced, which fundamentally changes the focus of the report. Mr Pickles can avoid greenbelt hassle by calling it a local issue once it is out of greenbelt. The meeting to ratify the LDF thing is scheduled for 20th June, this date being set AFTER the 19th June decision announcement was announced.

So those who are making the announcement want the LDF thing to be ratified before they publish the report, which may well contain some amendments to take into account the LDF decision. However, official meetings can be postponed, and so no new announcement date is set until they know the LDF outcome. Further, they cannot publish the report until the LDF ratification has had time to settle, or else it looks like the LDF ratification was done automatically, rather than the due process being followed.

So the decision will be announced a short time after the LDF ratification, taking into account its findings, but not immediately afterwards, announcing that the development is welcomed but is now a local issue as the land is no longer green belt. Pickles avoids the wrath of a few hippies and we all move on. This time next year this small delay won't mean anything.

My only concern would be that the LDF ratification could maybe open to challenges that the public inquiry isn't, and so making it local might cause more delays, but I know nothing about planning law. Politically, the LDF thing is perfect for Mr Pickles, and that will come before a celebratory barbecue at the 9's.

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Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "Doesnt say anything about it being a delay of a couple days in the response to IA'"


That's right - the official line is that there is no timescale given - nor any clues whatsoever as to the reason for the delay.

I think Slugger isn't too far off the mark, but we are guessing tbh!

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I am trying my hardest to work this one out and struggling.
If the LDF ratification makes it a local issue what was the purpose of the PI?
Why didnt all parties wait to see the outcome of LDF before going to PI?
If the land had been designated as brown belt then Leeds would not have been able to have complained about encroachment on Greenbelt.
Hope someone can clarify things for me.
Not a criticism of anyone on our side by the way.
Am just absolutely frustrated and in no need of any medication to help with digestive transit.
Up the Trin.

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Quote: jacques "I am trying my hardest to work this one out and struggling.
If the LDF ratification makes it a local issue what was the purpose of the PI?
Why didnt all parties wait to see the outcome of LDF before going to PI?
If the land had been designated as brown belt then Leeds would not have been able to have complained about encroachment on Greenbelt.Hope someone can clarify things for me.
Not a criticism of anyone on our side by the way.
Am just absolutely frustrated and in no need of any medication to help with digestive transit.
Up the Trin.'"


Am I right in saying that not all of the site has been re-classified as greenbelt ?

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Quote: jacques "I am trying my hardest to work this one out and struggling.
If the LDF ratification makes it a local issue what was the purpose of the PI?
Why didnt all parties wait to see the outcome of LDF before going to PI?
If the land had been designated as brown belt then Leeds would not have been able to have complained about encroachment on Greenbelt.
Hope someone can clarify things for me.
Not a criticism of anyone on our side by the way.
Am just absolutely frustrated and in no need of any medication to help with digestive transit.
Up the Trin.'"


I think the situation was that when the Planning Application was being formulated the LDF process was in its very early stages and it would have meant wating until now before submitting the application which even following LDF ratification would have taken months so we would not have had Outline Consent untile the end of this year or early next year.

Planning was submitted and whilst it was known that the site was Greenbelt it does not follow that there would automatically have to be a Public Inquiry. As it was a divergence foom the current UDP/LDF it would automatically be called in by Government Office but has there been no objections or the objectors could have been satisfied then Goverment Office could then have passed it back to Wakefield MDC and allowed them to determine the application.

As we know Leeds CC made a statutory objection which meant that a PI was inevitable.

I think the strategy was correct and I fully expect the application to be approved within the next few days after the LDF is formally ratified by Council tomorrow which is at least 6 months earlier than waiting for the LDF. It may be as early as Thursday or Friday or early next week.

Don't think there is anything to be concerned about and we'll just have to put the celebrations back a few days.

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Think your right and a small part of where the stadium is to go will encroach on it and thats the reason for the PI.Think this delay is just so that the ldf gets all the Is and Ts done and then we will know the outcome.The way Gouvernment departments work baffles most of us mortals and all it needs is one bit of legislation bumf to come in and the way things are done changes.Some times they put the cart before the horse and then find out its the other way round and you end up with delays.The decision will have been made and it will just need everything else being made secure.

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Quote: Tigerade "Am I right in saying that not all of the site has been re-classified as greenbelt ?'"


AFAIK you are correct. From what I understand, the industrial units on the former pit site will be on the land released from greenbelt.
The stadium and sports facilities will be on greenbelt (or at least most of it). Sports facilities are something that are allowable on greenbelt.
The stands and auxiliary buildings need to have a special case made, but as there were no objections to the plans for the stadium, only the enabling industrial units, there is no problem. HTH.

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