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| Quote: charlie "If we sign Obst we should look at changing our name, the Wakefield Trinity Kangaroos?'"
we are becoming a joke. wakefield is a hotbed of the game and agar has stuffed us with non uk players.
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| Was told last night the signings have reached an impasse. The key is Smiths visa application. If/when passed then the club know where they are likely to be at with the overseas quota. Sam will sign soon and Aiton back up for Smith. Tongia good as gone. Dowes looking more likely as theres no luck finding a suitable overseas prop without paying over the odds. James got til end of month to prove his worth and shed some weight. Kid is putting in, deserves a go i reckon. Mathers on hold until he agrees pay deal with cas. They want him to go for peanuts, hes digging his heels in wanting better payoff. They need him off books before they can make a move in market.
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| Quote: fat faced fan "we are becoming a joke. wakefield is a hotbed of the game and agar has stuffed us with non uk players.'"
.... but he's all about giving young players an opportunity, he has an excellent track record to prove it.
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| Sack the coach.Put all the young kidc in.Finish bottom.
That may make the moaners happy/
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| Quote: frenchdreadnought "Sack the coach.Put all the young kidc in.Finish bottom.
That may make the moaners happy/'"
Exactly right.
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| Quote: frenchdreadnought "Sack the coach.Put all the young kidc in.Finish bottom.
That may make the moaners happy/'"
What, there's only 2 choices now then? We either have to be either chocced full like we are now or have non at all?
give your head a shake.
Lauititi, Southern + 1 other quality import would be enough for us I reckon. No need for packing the likes of
tony, obst, collis, john, smith, mellars etc should have no place in our side.
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "What, there's only 2 choices now then? We either have to be either chocced full like we are now or have non at all?
give your head a shake.
Lauititi, Southern + 1 other quality import would be enough for us I reckon. No need for packing the likes of
tony, obst, collis, john, smith, mellars etc should have no place in our side.'"
I would add the two halves to your keep list but otherwise you're spot on.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "I would add the two halves to your keep list but otherwise you're spot on.'"
No, he's not spot on at all.
Until we see how the young English prospects are used in relation to the imports, it's totally unreasonable to level this amount of criticism at Agar.
If this is a transitional year with a disproportionate amount of imports in use to tide us over the development period for our own young players, then it will prove to have been the right thing to do; the club has just turned a massive corner in terms of ST sales and winning back some floating fans - if we then field a team full of young kids next season who get the tar knocked out of them every week, all that work will be undone.
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| Quote: bren2k "No, he's not spot on at all.
Until we see how the young English prospects are used in relation to the imports, it's totally unreasonable to level this amount of criticism at Agar.
If this is a transitional year with a disproportionate amount of imports in use to tide us over the development period for our own young players, then it will prove to have been the right thing to do; the club has just turned a massive corner in terms of ST sales and winning back some floating fans - if we then field a team full of young kids next season who get the tar knocked out of them every week, all that work will be undone.'"
You might want to put that straw man away.
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "You might want to put that straw man away.'"
There is no straw man - there seems to be an assumption that RA is packing the squad with imports for reasons other than a) we need to win some games and b) the younger players aren't ready. I don't believe that to be the case.
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| What i want to know if we are not getting Tongia and Mathers deal fails to materialise who will play full back if Tony get's injured. Let's face know one there right mind can seriously see Tony playing every game. Think this is a big risk in this area. Tongia could have played on Wing and also been a back up to Tony thus giving us more options.
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| We have cockayne and fox for wings... If tony gets injured then cockayne to FB and morton on wing. We have options but could do with a utility back for depth.
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| Quote: supercat "What i want to know if we are not getting Tongia and Mathers deal fails to materialise who will play full back if Tony get's injured. Let's face know one there right mind can seriously see Tony playing every game. Think this is a big risk in this area. Tongia could have played on Wing and also been a back up to Tony thus giving us more options.'"
Cockayne.
On the VT there's a list of what all the other teams in SL have for overseas players and atm we don't have as many as a coupe of teams and have a similar amount to the likes of Wigan and a few others.
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| Seriously now,its just that I think people have very short memories.
Remember what state we were in less than a year ago.
I fully agree with Clans earlier post about bringing along the youngsters gradually .
If they are good enough they will force their way in as is always the case.
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| Quote: bren2k "There is no straw man - there seems to be an assumption that RA is packing the squad with imports for reasons other than a) we need to win some games and b) the younger players aren't ready. I don't believe that to be the case.'"
Neither do I and I'll wait to pass judgement on the squad when it's finalized. Whatever happens though I don't think you can forget the reason we maybe have had to sign one or two overseas players more than we'd like, it's obviously because we thought we were playing in the division below. So imo the recruitment this year was always going to be tricky and the main thing for most fans is making the team as competitive as possible.
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