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I would also say both Karl Pryce and Cockayne would be excellent signings for Wakefield.'"


Wouldn't want the club to be associated with Cockayne. He's just a serial nob head.
Would think similar about Ryan Hudson or Gareth Hock. These three guys send out wrong messages about our game.

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Quote: jonh "There is no room for sentiment in pro sport. If he improves your team he is a good signing. A small time mentality in my opinion nearly got Wakefield out of the top flight.

Time to be professional. He is a good winger going through a bad spell but he will be back and he will improve Wakefield.

Fans are fickle he scores a few tries all is forgotten 1 thing he can do is score.

I would also say both Karl Pryce and Cockayne would be excellent signings for Wakefield.'"


I think the point is valid, but the examples chosen are bad ones. For starters I reckon 2 out of the 3 would come with a fair old price tag on their head.

Pryce has failed to deliver most of the time with bigger clubs than ours and also with similar clubs to ours - whats to suggest he will stop being lazy for us? He would be just out type of winger, big and powerfull but his attitude appears to stink.

Cockayne is, as has been said, a just a knob - and whilst he can certainly play he has had too many chances and continues to be a nasty peice of work. If we are going to sign a bad boy I would rather we look at Tansey who I reckon has got more ability than any of the 3 players suggested.

Fox again is a good player, but any money wasted on a winger as we just dont use them. We need powerful wingers, ones who help us get out of our own half and take work off the forwards, show ponies arent a good fit for us.

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Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "I think the point is valid, but the examples chosen are bad ones. For starters I reckon 2 out of the 3 would come with a fair old price tag on their head.

Pryce has failed to deliver most of the time with bigger clubs than ours and also with similar clubs to ours - whats to suggest he will stop being lazy for us? He would be just out type of winger, big and powerfull but his attitude appears to stink.

Cockayne is, as has been said, a just a knob - and whilst he can certainly play he has had too many chances and continues to be a nasty peice of work. If we are going to sign a bad boy I would rather we look at Tansey who I reckon has got more ability than any of the 3 players suggested.

Fox again is a good player, but any money wasted on a winger as we just dont use them. We need powerful wingers, ones who help us get out of our own half and take work off the forwards, show ponies arent a good fit for us.'"


Agreed. Don't think it's a case that we don't use them it's that we can't as we don't ever have the players to serve them. Fans have short memories, I've been watching Trinity for 20+ years and we have never really had success on the wings. This despite the fact that we have through the years had some really pacey and previously successful wingers on the books.

It's the same as the alleged Kear 5 drives and a kick. When Kear had Brough and a few others we played fairly expansive RL. Ditto the last long lasting Coach we had in Toppo.
Toppo has gained legendary status over time yet for the bulk of his tenure we were as dull as ditchwater and the only Winger who really had success under Toppo was Andy Wilson and he was no more than 10 tries a season. Kear like Toppo was always hamstrung by the sort of players he could afford or could keep hold of. It wasn't until Nigel Wright and Jeff Bagnall turned u that we really started to play attractive RL.

John Glancy was one of my fave players then but he simply couldn't pass a ball and he was not alone he just grafted. Our creative spark was Mark Conway who made Ben Jeffries look like Mr Consistent even though on his day Conway could be a brilliant player.

For me we need a pack first, pivot players next, then the link players and finally finishers - it's not new that's always been the formula. Give Kear or whoever the tools to do the job and they probably will eventually. If people actually think we are playing the kind of that Kear wants they are deluded. You can pehaps suggest his methods are wrong but his motive will be just fine.

I seriously doubt JK says to his players "Go out and make me look a cock and ruin my reputation and my future prospects please". Likewise I don't think Tommy Lee goes out and try to be a below average half back he just is.

People also say if Lee is so bad play a youngster - well actually Kear has in Wildie who people were clamouring for. Well I'm sorry but for me he's yet to prove he is anything like ready for SL. I think we need to be a little realistic about the players we have and are likely to get.

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Personally, I'd like to see Ben Cockayne given a shot by Wakey. He is much better than Tansey imo, and tbf they both seem to be just as bad as each other off the field. Ben would give 100% to Wakey, because he has a real point to prove, so he would be a great asset. He returns the ball with interest, he's very versatile, he can finish tries, and his defence is solid. Give him a chance, as far as Im concerned.

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Quote: WakeyManDan8 "[sizePersonally, I'd like to see Ben Cockayne given a shot by Wakey[/size. He is much better than Tansey imo, and tbf they both seem to be just as bad as each other off the field. Ben would give 100% to Wakey, because he has a real point to prove, so he would be a great asset. He returns the ball with interest, he's very versatile, he can finish tries, and his defence is solid. Give him a chance, as far as Im concerned.'"


I'd prefer to see him shot by Wakey to be honest. I generally try not to moralise to much about players as I never bought all this role model crap. However you need to draw a line somewhere and for me he is it. It's not what he does which is bad enough it's that he keeps doing it which shows he has little or no remorse IMO. Baily at Leeds had the same problem but his time in Jail seemed to cure him of that. Perhaps it would help Cockayne but I get the feeling that prison may be a home from home for him.

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His last season for us was very poor!

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Cockayne has already signed a contract with another SL side for next year.

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Quote: Wildthing "Cockayne has already signed a contract with another SL side for next year.'"


Good that's at least one less player for us to fall out over.

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Quote: vastman "Good that's at least one less player for us to fall out over.'"


Indeed!

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Quote: PHe "I agree Snowie, I have some sympathy with the Welsh team players, however what about the fate of the players from the demoted club had one club not gone 'belly up'. Senior states that he was disappointed at being told 5 minutes before the announcement, at least he was told face to face; what about the players from 'endangered' clubs who were having to wait until some geezer on TV called your name out. Would there have been all this media talk had the club demoted been WT and it was perhaps Hendo who was losing his job?'"


I think they are more annoyed about money they are owed, now the club has gone it's not looking like they will get it.

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Quote: Wildthing "Cockayne has already signed a contract with another SL side for next year.'"


More fool them!

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "More fool them!'"


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some are considering Cockayne and not Senior? d040.gif

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Quote: jonh "But both will massively improve Wakefield, the notion that Pryce is soft is an interesting one given the way he regularly smashes around forwards. He is lazy yes but he is not soft.'"


I don't agree - he's an absolutley massive human but punches well below his weight; he's also unfit and injury prone. Not for us.

Cockayne is quite simply a horrible individual who isn't worth the bother - he is 100% guaranteed to let down whichever club he plays for and we certainly don't need the negative publicity.

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Quote: bren2k "I don't agree - he's an absolutley massive human but punches well below his weight; he's also unfit and injury prone. Not for us.

Cockayne is quite simply a horrible individual who isn't worth the bother - he is 100% guaranteed to let down whichever club he plays for and we certainly don't need the negative publicity.'"



We should sign him and bring Latu back that way we'll have a full deck.


Not for me ta.

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