Why not lock it then? The thread was dying!

Most sensible thing said on this forum for months, ban him

do you mean invested his money ?.

Just out of interest how many season tickets were sold for the 2010 season?

I must admit from my dealings with the Board I don't share the view of some of the most vocal on these boards.

I genuinely think the Board have tried their best in a commerical environment which to be fair is not easy when the stadium is not the finest attraction, budgets are limited and getting people through the turnstiles can be a challenge in poor economic conditions, finance limited squad and sugar daddy sponsored clubs in competition. I was admittedly astonished at the season ticket sales and would expect better.

I believe TR when he says that his house is at stake. He is a genuine fan of the team and committed everything he has. We can all criticise decisions, if we were in charge then there is always someone to criticise what we do, believe me! Ted has sacrificed a lot for the club.

I am curious though. Over the years people on here talk of Ted's family benefiting from the club. To date (maybe due my dropping in and out of the forums) I don't know who the family members are! Can someone please enlighten me as to who past/present are family members of Ted who have benefited from the club? I am not being awkward, this is a genuine query, honestly!

brainwashed

I stick by my observations off the senior team at WTWRLFC, oft stated on here. I think there are 2 legitimate criticisms to be made. Firstly they are not wealthy enough and secondly they have not raised the clubs income sufficiently.

What they have achieved though is nothing short of remarkable. With an income significantly less than their competitors they have, post Pearman, competed and punched above their weight relative to their competitors with greater income. The credibility and track record of their coaching team is of an objectively verifiably better standard in the 30 years of my being a fan.

To the objective observer it is nothing short of a miracle that the spectre of administration has been fought off for so long. Lets not forget that but for a 50 / 50 decision by the SOS this crisis would not have arisen at this stage.

That these boards are filled right now with the critics who throw around foundless allegations and insult the intelligence of those who have a contrary position to their own ought not to blind us to the objective facts. The last 10 years of the clubs history may well have seen dark days but have also seen the best days on the field in my life time (Im 40).

None of this is intended to pretend that the club is in a healthy state. I simply challenge the supposition of the keyboard Alan Sugars that managing the club more effectively amidst the circumstances that were beyond the controll of the BOD at WTWRLFC was achievable under the circumstances.

For not being extraordinarily wealthy and failing as an alchemist the BOD are guilty. I see no evidence of their guilt of anything else.

Your entitled to your opinion mate, but I think you are giving the BOD far too much credit. Everything related to WTRLFC has been in their control and it is their bad decisions that have got to us where we are. Failure to pay our tax bills repeatedly, falling for the Thornes park pipe dream, falling for the Pearman debacle and failing to check him out properly first - treating all but a few select fans like mushrooms and then asking for us to pay 1,000 quid with no facts as to what it is actually for and suggesting if we don't we don't care.

I am not falling for any of this hindsight is a great thing bull crap, the bottom line is they are incapable of planning anything properly and we are now seeing the result of this with the current debacle.

The heart of the debate is the too much credit or too much criticism issue. I stand by the too much criticism position. Let me explain why.

It is easy to take the peril the cub is now in and assert that it is the result of the bad decisions. However that whole arguement is predacated on an assumption that better options were available at the time that the BOD made what you assert were the bad decisions.

Cup semi final, twice in play offs, a SOS decision away from a new stadium - these are not insignificant achivements - in our financial context and relative to our competitors. It is in this light that I think the criticism is too harsh.

I think it is possible that no management team, faced with the context our BOD have faced would have managed more effectively. For me the issue of good or bad leadership is were the controllables controlled? I have seen no evidence that our BOD failed in this respect.

Cup semi final, twice in play offs, a SOS decision away from a new stadium - these are not insignificant achivements - in our financial context and relative to our competitors. It is in this light that I think the criticism is too harsh

Lots of nearly's in there - believe you I have had directly dealings with the club regarding very big potential sponsorship deals - and they were appalling. If you were looking at a deal worth £50-100k - would you have supplied a copy of the best bits of the previous season - mmmm yes you would. Wakey were asked personally by me 8 times and never supplied it. The potential (it was never guaranteed) sponsorship just walked away!!!

lad13 the example you cite sounds odd on the face of it especially given the financial state of the club.

It is common FACT that the Richardson clan have been taking a big chunk of money out of the club year on year and plenty of it. Jobs for all the family !! I know one businessman who tried to invest big money in the club a few years ago and they did not want his investment because they wanted to keep control... if that happened there would have been major changes in who was earning what as a salary and there was no way they were going to let that happen. Eric France was also prepared to wasn't he ?? again something got in the way of that I heard.

Yes but you are forgetting that these achievements were done by not acting within the financial constraints that applied and hence why we have had 2 large tax bills in 12 months and now another one possibly threatening the existence of the club. Is paying the bills not a controllable?

wonder where the money has gone. now thats a mystery.

Like most arguments where polar opposites exist, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle!