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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "to all the fans so far up the clubs ass,hang your heads in shame. toput up with pathetic perfomances like that is beyond belief. i know go to a wisca do and lick teds backside. then you can bow down to john,you know loyal john who spoke to another club, whos commitment is elsewhere, who signed the players, who deliver garbage. i await who we gonna get or your a disgrace,or even i might get a fans like you arnt needed message from the club,i would like another one of them. some of you need a backbone and stand up for what is right, cause at the moment its clueless cack. say what ya want who gives a damn.

Here here, I think you echoe Jd's sentiments after the game!

Sticking up for yet another "bad day at the office" will not help our cause, watch a pub side if you wanna have that family feel each week.

Kear has to go, teams are figuring our scoot from dummy half then drop the ball routine out!

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Quote: TRB "Well surely there is a bigger issue hidden within your reply here Al?

We all want a strong, vibrant, exciting and positive club - yet it seems unfashionable / un-attractive to been seen to help it. The WiSCA folk all work for nowt - yet they are the next best thing to Leppars, or so it seems to some folk around here.

Easy targets for the snipers

Is this part of the same mentality that dictates that we must slag off everything that anyone tries to make Wakefield a better place? The Hepworth - an eyesore; the Bull-ring - a vacuum; Pinderfields - over-priced, etc etc...

Yes it is

How can we ever move forward when we don't even appear unified as to where it is we want to go as a club - and even if we were, most wouldn't want to be seen in public admitting that they are happy to do so - because it's not cool!

We can't and i don't think that will change

This isn't a rant at the work that people like you do - it's a genuine question about how to get at least some of that energy working towards the club - it's our club and we would be stronger if we were behind it together!'"





I'd quit but that would mean they had won, and that ain't going to happen any time soon

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "It was appauling to day what do we do in training we were bunched dis organised pap. I love John Kear but something isn't right our plays have been garbage. It was appauling today.'"
ye dont say

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "to all the fans so far up the clubs ass,hang your heads in shame. toput up with pathetic perfomances like that is beyond belief. i know go to a wisca do and lick teds backside. then you can bow down to john,you know loyal john who spoke to another club, whos commitment is elsewhere, who signed the players, who deliver garbage. i await who we gonna get or your a disgrace,or even i might get a fans like you arnt needed message from the club,i would like another one of them. some of you need a backbone and stand up for what is right, cause at the moment its clueless cack. say what ya want who gives a damn. icon_beat.gif

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "well ive just had a warning so i dont want to give you the pleasure of banning me,when i am the seeker of truth and justice. its only opinions you know'"


Hilarious, the seeker of truth and justice,.....how seriously do you take yourself......i suppose you have to because no one else does?

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The fans are saying it's garbage the captain is saying it's garbage and Kear is saying we haven't a hope in hell. Kear needs to come clean on as to why we look completely disinterested or someone else can.

This us and them routine with club peers against the disillusioned fans is in no way helping at all.

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Mopsey

By the very nature of your post - it would infer that a fan is either a do gooder or a do badder it would seem - which are you?

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Quote: TRB "OK - I'll bite.
What is to say that people who 'do good' for the club can't / don't have their own opinions. Who is to say that we agree with everything the club does? Who is to say that we feel John is, or isn't, the best man for the job?
The fact is that every fan has an opinion - but that some choose to keep schtum at times - if they beleive that that is best for the club.
WiSCA - as the official supporters club, has a responsibility to support the club - they work with them FFS.
Now here is my challenge to you. Do something / say something / write something that makes our club better in any small way at all - in fact, show me anything that you have done / said / written that has helped the club become better in any way, shape or form - thought not!
if your not going to bite, don't!! Stop taking every criticism so personally.
Your clearly in a better position to get the points herd, clearly it's not, so understand where the rest of us are coming from.
Any points from the fans are largely ignored, you for some reason or another are an appointed/self appointed stool pigeon, ted doesn't care so why should you!!!
But TRB you do, you know a lot of here is right and comes from our hearts, and you know we are on a fast track downhill.
Stop sheltering those who would not shelter you!!
Forget any ground these idiots could cost us a SL place on their own!!!!
Are we on sksports 1,2,3 or 4 next week!!!

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Quote: kinleycat "if your not going to bite, don't!! Stop taking every criticism so personally.
Your clearly in a better position to get the points herd, clearly it's not, so understand where the rest of us are coming from.
Any points from the fans are largely ignored, you for some reason or another are an appointed/self appointed stool pigeon, ted doesn't care so why should you!!!
But TRB you do, you know a lot of here is right and comes from our hearts, and you know we are on a fast track downhill.
Stop sheltering those who would not shelter you!!
Forget any ground these idiots could cost us a SL place on their own!!!!
Are we on sksports 1,2,3 or 4 next week!!!'"


All the frustrations felt on here are fed back up the line. My problem comes sometimes from knowing too much - and therefore the reasoning for some of the actions taken, regardless of whether I agree with them or not.

I quite often stay out of some of the debates which take place on here, for the reasons that, 1) some people read more into what I'm saying than what I'm saying, and 2) because I am known and my comments could be 'disruptive'. I do have dialogue with board members / employees at the club about things I think should be done differently (I have some strong views on certain matters which I feel need better attention), which I don't always report on here.

As for the problems of how we got to this point and how we get away from it - I honestly believe that the key to it all is not the board / the coach / the players or the staff, but the key to our future is the stadium - and I wish it were not so, rather that it had something to do with the sport itself (so there's one issue I agree with John on). For that reason I am doing the best I can to support our future. Will it be enough - time will tell - but I will know that I've tried.

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TRB do you think the Stadium go ahead is the only filip we need to get back on track? I know it would be hard to give my girlfriend my all if I was 50-50 to whether she was going to be with me in the near future.

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Quote: Lupset_Airport "TRB do you think the Stadium go ahead is the only filip we need to get back on track? I know it would be hard to give my girlfriend my all if I was 50-50 to whether she was going to be with me in the near future.'"


I do think that the whole world would appear different if we had the knowledge that the diggers were on site along with the steel and concrete.

In the meantime, there are things that can be improved - always, but there are genuine limitations as a result of our current situation.

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Quote: TRB "All the frustrations felt on here are fed back up the line. My problem comes sometimes from knowing too much - and therefore the reasoning for some of the actions taken, regardless of whether I agree with them or not.

I quite often stay out of some of the debates which take place on here, for the reasons that, 1) some people read more into what I'm saying than what I'm saying, and 2) because I am known and my comments could be 'disruptive'. I do have dialogue with board members / employees at the club about things I think should be done differently (I have some strong views on certain matters which I feel need better attention), which I don't always report on here.

As for the problems of how we got to this point and how we get away from it - I honestly believe that the key to it all is not the board / the coach / the players or the staff, but the key to our future is the stadium - and I wish it were not so, rather that it had something to do with the sport itself (so there's one issue I agree with John on). For that reason I am doing the best I can to support our future. Will it be enough - time will tell - but I will know that I've tried.'"


A big problem in all of this is that the club treats its fans like idiots; it shouldn't be down to you to be the apologist and bearer of news from the club, or to try to get people back on board when they're brassed off, but in the absence of any official messages, you're often it. That puts you in the firing line, since at times of high emotion, people will always shoot the messenger.

It strikes me that the club is ting on you just as much as it's ting on the rest of us, by pushing you out the door to appease the restless natives, then hiding inside while you get tarred and feathered.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - this club will never be more than a tinpot, small-town operation whilst the current administration is in charge, new stadium or not.

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TRB I think I know what you are saying.I hope you mean that you are probably too close to the club but I have been a supporter of Trinity since 1948 and have seen the good times and plenty of bad times but one thing has been common in all that time and that is that for 95% of the time the team gave their all which I hate to say but this set of players do not seem to care ,although I hope they do.Getting a new stadium is essential but even that does not guarantee it,therfore we certainly cannot afford to lose supporters at the rate we are losing them at the moment. As can be seen I have supported them for over 60 years but evev I'm getting fed up with these sort of performances and until I know what sort of team we will have next season I will not be buying a season ticket,money is getting short at the momentand the displays we are having to suffer are not worth paying £5 for why people pay £20 I don't know.Also I think it is about time that Ted had a meeting with the supporters so that he could explain about what is so wrong at the club,he doesn't need topull any punches just tell us the truth and not let you take all the flak. The silence from the board is deafening.

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Quote: 1948er "TRB I think I know what you are saying.I hope you mean that you are probably too close to the club but I have been a supporter of Trinity since 1948 and have seen the good times and plenty of bad times but one thing has been common in all that time and that is that for 95% of the time the team gave their all which I hate to say but this set of players do not seem to care ,although I hope they do.Getting a new stadium is essential but even that does not guarantee it,therfore we certainly cannot afford to lose supporters at the rate we are losing them at the moment. As can be seen I have supported them for over 60 years but evev I'm getting fed up with these sort of performances and until I know what sort of team we will have next season I will not be buying a season ticket,money is getting short at the momentand the displays we are having to suffer are not worth paying £5 for why people pay £20 I don't know.Also I think it is about time that Ted had a meeting with the supporters so that he could explain about what is so wrong at the club,he doesn't need topull any punches just tell us the truth and not let you take all the flak. The silence from the board is deafening.'"


Agree every word.

The stadium would allow us to look forward and plan with confidence. I honestly believe that the lack of clarity is affecting performances and you are right - we need to move to a new stadium as a vibrant and, at least moderately, succesful club.

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Quote: bren2k "I've said it before and I'll say it again - this club will never be more than a tinpot, small-town operation whilst the current administration is in charge, new stadium or not.'"

I can't see a queue of would be investors waiting to take the reins. Maybe that will change if we move to a new stadium - but I doubt it.

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