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| Hope I never see Lineham again - in a Wakey shirt or another shirt for that matter. Bloke is a waste of space who has taken the out of this club.
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| Now let’s make some noise for the Lads
We've now SOLD OUT of our allocation of tickets for tomorrow night!
If you haven't got your ticket yet, you can get yours at the John Smith's Stadium tomorrow night.
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| It seems from recent communications we are keen to sign Shaul...
With it being on record about the cuts in spending.....I know we've shifted a lot of salary cap with the departures...but I do wonder in an attempt to save money whether we'll try out Jowitt at 6 next season?
He's without doubt for me the best passer of the ball at the club....his kicking game is improving...he's an excellent goalkicker as back up to Lino and defensively he's got a lot better...you only have to look at the highlights from the last couple of games to see he has the quality to open up defences and supply that killer pass and also has a knack of supporting a breaking player...
If funds are tight and spent better in other positions I may be ok with Jowitt and Lino as halves, Shaul at full back and Gaskell as cover...
Be interesting to see how we play it...
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| As cover, sure. As starting So? I'd want someone with experience who can lead.
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| Well if we sign Shaul I can't see us signing a half back...
1 pivot out in Miller won't equal 2 in with Shaul and another...
I don't see it anyway?
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| Quote: upthecats "Well if we sign Shaul I can't see us signing a half back...
1 pivot out in Miller won't equal 2 in with Shaul and another...
I don't see it anyway?'"
We've got TJ, Tupou, Miller, Fifita, Arona and Batch wages to spend.
I'd be happy to spend all Fifita on a new prop, Arona I'd spend on a 13, half TJ to boost Murphy, same with Hall. Tupou's on Shaul, Miller + Ayden on a quality stand off and Batch on a young forward, probably a prop
And if we can off load Lineham I'd use on another forward
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| Quote: upthecats "It seems from recent communications we are keen to sign Shaul...
With it being on record about the cuts in spending.....I know we've shifted a lot of salary cap with the departures...but I do wonder in an attempt to save money whether we'll try out Jowitt at 6 next season?
He's without doubt for me the best passer of the ball at the club....his kicking game is improving...he's an excellent goalkicker as back up to Lino and defensively he's got a lot better...you only have to look at the highlights from the last couple of games to see he has the quality to open up defences and supply that killer pass and also has a knack of supporting a breaking player...
If funds are tight and spent better in other positions I may be ok with Jowitt and Lino as halves, Shaul at full back and Gaskell as cover...
Be interesting to see how we play it...'"
I don't normally get involved in recruitment, and as much as I don't mind Shaul I'd be disappointed if they signed him over Max
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| Quote: PopTart "We've got TJ, Tupou, Miller, Fifita, Arona and Batch wages to spend.
I'd be happy to spend all Fifita on a new prop, Arona I'd spend on a 13, half TJ to boost Murphy, same with Hall. Tupou's on Shaul, Miller + Ayden on a quality stand off and Batch on a young forward, probably a prop
And if we can off load Lineham I'd use on another forward'"
I think you’re doing what we all do. It’s true we do have those wages free, however those wages were negotiated under the old Sky deal.
I’m no accountant but my guess would be that if you were to sign all those players today you’d have to offer them 20% less.
So you have a choice I suppose. You either try and recruit similar players on lesser salaries - not easy. You’d assume agents and players would realise there was less cash about and be more realistic but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Or you maintain the quality but sign approx one less. Unpopular with fans but easily the better option imho.
Its here that your academy comes into play. If Mash has got it right there will now be a few players hitting 20 who are capable of covering in emergencies. Not ideal but needs must.
There are certainly three players we need to see push on this season, that’s Eseh and Shaw and Bowes assuming we are retaining them. Ditto any others. Relatively low wages but with a point to make and a career to build.
Some will say this is risky and doing it on the cheap. I would say it’s playing to your strength and cashing in your investment. I know it’s a cliche but there is no point having an academy if you don’t use it and WP has stated he will and has certainly trusted youth so far.
The big test will hopefully be in two years time when possibly all the players have made it. By then you’d hope the money situation would be far better.
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| Quote: vastman "I think you’re doing what we all do. It’s true we do have those wages free, however those wages were negotiated under the old Sky deal.
I’m no accountant but my guess would be that if you were to sign all those players today you’d have to offer them 20% less.
So you have a choice I suppose. You either try and recruit similar players on lesser salaries - not easy. You’d assume agents and players would realise there was less cash about and be more realistic but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Or you maintain the quality but sign approx one less. Unpopular with fans but easily the better option imho.
Its here that your academy comes into play. If Mash has got it right there will now be a few players hitting 20 who are capable of covering in emergencies. Not ideal but needs must.
There are certainly three players we need to see push on this season, that’s Eseh and Shaw and Bowes assuming we are retaining them. Ditto any others. Relatively low wages but with a point to make and a career to build.
Some will say this is risky and doing it on the cheap. I would say it’s playing to your strength and cashing in your investment. I know it’s a cliche but there is no point having an academy if you don’t use it and WP has stated he will and has certainly trusted youth so far.
The big test will hopefully be in two years time when possibly all the players have made it. By then you’d hope the money situation would be far better.'"
Fair point. I'd knocked one of the forwards off my list.
But I would get a proven quality half back and keep Murphy and Hall first. Then a Fifita replacement. Then see what's left.
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| Quote: vastman "I think you’re doing what we all do. It’s true we do have those wages free, however those wages were negotiated under the old Sky deal.
I’m no accountant but my guess would be that if you were to sign all those players today you’d have to offer them 20% less.
So you have a choice I suppose. You either try and recruit similar players on lesser salaries - not easy. You’d assume agents and players would realise there was less cash about and be more realistic but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Or you maintain the quality but sign approx one less. Unpopular with fans but easily the better option imho.
Its here that your academy comes into play. If Mash has got it right there will now be a few players hitting 20 who are capable of covering in emergencies. Not ideal but needs must.
There are certainly three players we need to see push on this season, that’s Eseh and Shaw and Bowes assuming we are retaining them. Ditto any others. Relatively low wages but with a point to make and a career to build.
Some will say this is risky and doing it on the cheap. I would say it’s playing to your strength and cashing in your investment. I know it’s a cliche but there is no point having an academy if you don’t use it and WP has stated he will and has certainly trusted youth so far.
The big test will hopefully be in two years time when possibly all the players have made it. By then you’d hope the money situation would be far better.'"
It's a good job [isomebody[/i at the club is then Vasty......
Agree with what you say about the acadamy players - it appears we have some young gems there.....
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| Why do we never see a quality half back coming through from the academy? I suppose the last really good one was Nigel Wright and that is going back a long way
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| Quote: ball-in-hand "Why do we never see a quality half back coming through from the academy? I suppose the last really good one was Nigel Wright and that is going back a long way'"
Because you don't see them anywhere not just Trinity. They are as rare as hens teeth and I don't know why, even in Oz there are less than there used to be.
So I'm guessing you didn't rate Danny Brough first time around. Huge fan as I was of Wrighty Brough was just as good if a different style and was far more durable.
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| Didn’t Matty Willie come through as a halfback then transition to a 9? He was the last I remember coming through who went on to make some decent appearances.
Maybe Paul Handforth. It’s been sp though.
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| I think part of the reason is that we pigeon hole players to early.
Too small too slow must be a forward etc. They need to have time to develop and decide what they want to do as well. Same in any industry to be honest.
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| Forgot about Brough but didn't we let him go to Dewsbury then York then Hull and Castleford before he really came good then Huddersfield outbid us then back to us when it was too late
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