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| Quote: crowt123 "shifty..it's the future we need to look forward to and the future is the kids..and the kids want to support a team with a chance..if there was an M then within 5 years all would be forgotten..we would have 10k at every home game and a team near the top than two at the bottom! imho and looking at reality to me it seems the only way to go for the future! and before i get slated i have been a wakefield supporter since 1976!'"
In a way I agree but up to this poor run of form,most people were of the opinion that with a new stadium Trinity could move forward,we could increase crowds with home and away support,advertising would increase, make better buys down to having more money,a franchise and better facilities.
Obviously there are positives of merger and in time some supporters would return as well as some stay from both sides.But who knows what would become of a merged team ,the problems with trying to merge is huge,with problems like,who's going to own it,run it,coach it as well as plenty of others.The initial merger may be greeted with poor crowds,which would lead to no money to make the team better and then back to square one.
Personally I'd like to see what Trinity can achieve in a new stadium with bigger crowds and a renewed hope and atmosphere.
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| Wakefield have the the potential to succeed in SL with out a merger The city is big enough to support it both in business backing and support. The new community stadium at newmarket is the best thing to happen for Trinity, Belle Vue has held the club back for years. England is different than Australia regarding mergers because our clubs represent our Cities and Towns thats why we support them. Don't forget Wakefield is the biggest City in England without a Pro football team once we move into a stadium to be proud of instead of the dump of our present ground, with the right marketing there's no reason why we can't be a regular top 6 SL side
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| Supporting Trinity is like being on a bad drug! Perhaps a merger is the excuse some of us need to break the habit of a lifetime? Would be nice to have free weekends through the summer.
I'll stick to being an addict for now but should the merger cure come along I'll look forward to a drug free future.
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| As soon as wakey announced the location of Newmarket Lane I warned both Cas and wakey fans that a merger would come and I still don't see anything to make me think it wont happen. As I have resigned myself to this I have mused over the prospect for quite a while and I think the majority of people, myself included, could follow a merged team under the following conditionswhole area to blossom and engender a lost sense of pride and community which has otherwise been consigned to the rubbish tip by successive Tory and (more shamefully in my opinion) Labour governments. Apologies I digress!
If these three points were applied, more importantly point 1, then I, as gut wrenching as it would be, could support a merged team with the pride and passion with which I have followed Castleford Tigers.
You may have noticed that I have left Featherstone Rovers out of the equation, this is purely as the thread appears to me to be talking about Cas and wakey only. They could easily be placed into the equation I have outlined above with little or no problem should they choose to.
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| just had a thought OMG if we ever did merge what will happen on this board
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "As soon as wakey announced the location of Newmarket Lane I warned both Cas and wakey fans that a merger would come and I still don't see anything to make me think it wont happen. As I have resigned myself to this I have mused over the prospect for quite a while and I think the majority of people, myself included, could follow a merged team under the following conditionsCastleford Tigers and/or Wakefield Trinity Wildcats. The names must die with the merger; it's the only way it could work.
2. The newly merged team must play in completely neutral colours (no black, amber, red, white or blue) difficult though this may be. There aren't many left as I'm sure neither of us wants to play in blue (spit!)
3. The newly formed club must be named independently of the two places. Who says a team has to bear the name of a Town or a City? It has to be something completely synonomous with the area; the only thing I can think of that alienates no-one, but incorporates almost everyone is the moniker "Miners" or some other mining industry name. This, in my opinion, could appease some of the older heads too as well as allowing the heritage and identity of the whole area to blossom and engender a lost sense of pride and community which has otherwise been consigned to the rubbish tip by successive Tory and (more shamefully in my opinion) Labour governments. Apologies I digress!
If these three points were applied, more importantly point 1, then I, as gut wrenching as it would be, could support a merged team with the pride and passion with which I have followed Castleford Tigers.
You may have noticed that I have left Featherstone Rovers out of the equation, this is purely as the thread appears to me to be talking about Cas and wakey only. They could easily be placed into the equation I have outlined above with little or no problem should they choose to.'"
That will come as a shock to many Steady but you are right.
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| Quote: MUTLEY CAT "just had a thought
It would be very busy for a few weeks and then very quite for a while, maybe it would pick up after that.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "As soon as wakey announced the location of Newmarket Lane I warned both Cas and wakey fans that a merger would come and I still don't see anything to make me think it wont happen. As I have resigned myself to this I have mused over the prospect for quite a while and I think the majority of people, myself included, could follow a merged team under the following conditionswhole area to blossom and engender a lost sense of pride and community which has otherwise been consigned to the rubbish tip by successive Tory and (more shamefully in my opinion) Labour governments. Apologies I digress!
If these three points were applied, more importantly point 1, then I, as gut wrenching as it would be, could support a merged team with the pride and passion with which I have followed Castleford Tigers.
You may have noticed that I have left Featherstone Rovers out of the equation, this is purely as the thread appears to me to be talking about Cas and wakey only. They could easily be placed into the equation I have outlined above with little or no problem should they choose to.'"
Agree with pretty much all of this.
I like Gaslight's suggestion of Trinity Tigers. I could live with a black and amber home shirt and a red white and blue away shirt but I have to agree a neutral name/colours would be the least offensive.
I would go with a merger on terms that suits us both which I think would give us a club and support that could compete with the Wigan's, Leeds and Saints. Its got to be better than what we have both got now or can look forward to.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "As soon as wakey announced the location of Newmarket Lane I warned both Cas and wakey fans that a merger would come and I still don't see anything to make me think it wont happen. As I have resigned myself to this I have mused over the prospect for quite a while and I think the majority of people, myself included, could follow a merged team under the following conditionswhole area to blossom and engender a lost sense of pride and community which has otherwise been consigned to the rubbish tip by successive Tory and (more shamefully in my opinion) Labour governments. Apologies I digress!
If these three points were applied, more importantly point 1, then I, as gut wrenching as it would be, could support a merged team with the pride and passion with which I have followed Castleford Tigers.
You may have noticed that I have left Featherstone Rovers out of the equation, this is purely as the thread appears to me to be talking about Cas and wakey only. They could easily be placed into the equation I have outlined above with little or no problem should they choose to.'"
If a merger ever happened then that is the only way it could work. Calder Miners could be an option for a name and as you say it incorporates the whole districts industrial heritage.
The real benefit at Newmarket over Glasshoughten is the location. I know technically it’s in Wakefield but at approx. 4m away from each centre its equidistant. I know Cas have outline PP but Newmarket has the funding which is not transferable to any other site, merely because of the surrounding development.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "As soon as wakey announced the location of Newmarket Lane I warned both Cas and wakey fans that a merger would come and I still don't see anything to make me think it wont happen. As I have resigned myself to this I have mused over the prospect for quite a while and I think the majority of people, myself included, could follow a merged team under the following conditionswhole area to blossom and engender a lost sense of pride and community which has otherwise been consigned to the rubbish tip by successive Tory and (more shamefully in my opinion) Labour governments. Apologies I digress!
If these three points were applied, more importantly point 1, then I, as gut wrenching as it would be, could support a merged team with the pride and passion with which I have followed Castleford Tigers.
You may have noticed that I have left Featherstone Rovers out of the equation, this is purely as the thread appears to me to be talking about Cas and wakey only. They could easily be placed into the equation I have outlined above with little or no problem should they choose to.'"
Good old steady you are one of the reasonable Cas posters and everything you say is spot on.
On a final point although people live in Fev and Cas like just about everyone else we all live in Wakefield. You may not want to call it Wakefield but thats where it is and it would be still in Wakefield even if it were in Glasshoughton.
So as for teams colours lets adopt the colours of the District of Wakefield, they might not be perfect for the fashion police but they are neutral and represent the wider community.
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| I could go with supporting a completely neutral merged team (even tho I have supported Wakey since 1960). Let's face it, if one of our teams did not get a franchise next time they aren't going to get back in SL.
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| Quote: Prince Buster "Good old steady you are one of the reasonable Cas posters and everything you say is spot on.
On a final point although people live in Fev and Cas like just about everyone else we all live in Wakefield. You may not want to call it Wakefield but thats where it is and it would be still in Wakefield even if it were in Glasshoughton.
So as for teams colours lets adopt the colours of the District of Wakefield, they might not be perfect for the fashion police but they are neutral and represent the wider community.'"
Perhaps not quite the WMDC colours but I think it looks smart;
Plus this is the Wakefield District coat of arms, perhaps this could be incorporated into the badge.
… and some rlinforl about it.
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| Nice touch, that shield should keep our Cas friends happy.
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| As a stand alone location then in my opinion glasshoughton is a better location purely down to the leisure facilities that already exist. However, because of the more sensitive nature of a merger between the two parties concerned then newmarket lane is the best option we have for all. (I can cycle to either so i'm alright!) Normanton would have been ideal as mopsey has stated, but that ship has sailed unfortunately. I genuinely do think the time is upon us as fans to bury the hatchet and work together for the best possible outcome. We wont get another chance. It would be a crying shame to see the young talent that both clubs currently posses playing for teams outside the district.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "As a stand alone location then in my opinion glasshoughton is a better location purely down to the leisure facilities that already exist. However, because of the more sensitive nature of a merger between the two parties concerned then newmarket lane is the best option we have for all. (I can cycle to either so i'm alright!) Normanton would have been ideal as mopsey has stated, but that ship has sailed unfortunately. I genuinely do think the time is upon us as fans to bury the hatchet and work together for the best possible outcome. We wont get another chance. It would be a crying shame to see the young talent that both clubs currently posses playing for teams outside the district.'"
Funding wise the only location is Newmarket. Glasshoughten does indeed boast an area already developed around the leisure industry but unfortunately there does not seem to be a funding package that will see the stadium become a reality.
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