No he's not!

It's not an arguement pal. Do you not understand what IMO means ?
Everybody has one.

Both players have had their highs and lows in the last few years but both now are injury prone and maybe we need to be moving or trying to move to the next level regarding players.
I hope Danny makes a full recovery and is able to continue playing.

So you're bored of this now, . All I've really pointed out in the posts, that what you initially said about Kirmond & you're direct comparison with Mariano was simply wrong & you kept responding to me after that. You can have your 10 game in 2 seasons player & I'll take the one with 26..

Yep agree with that and the highlighted bit in this is the important thing, whether it's here or elsewhere.

Gibsons not been given a real chance yet due to his injury.

Who's arguing, in my opinion he's not!

Pal

Love all this talk about clubs getting rid of players! Who is to say that we didn't offer Walton a contract, or that Cas haven't offered Mariano a deal, or not...

Walton may well have been offered terms by us, but maybe was offered better or similar by Bradford with the potential of more game time? I haven't seen a statement that says we released him, but we obviously put a value on all players and if wont sign for that value then we move on.

Frankie may well be the same. Depending on the deal, I would take a risk with him, but the deal has to be incentive based and he may be offered mores security elsewhere. The whole thing is very dynamic and very fluid.

I do wish we were in a position to name signings for next year, but that won't come until season tickets are on sale and we all know why they are not - yet!

I dont disagree with anything that you've put although, I doubt that we out bid Cas for Owen & Tansey.
They appeared surplus to Castlefords requirements and not to be part of Powells plans.

Cas signed McShane from us, which meant that Trinity could sign Moore.

Moore is an excellent player but, there is little doubt that they have had better value from McShane who will have played significantly more minutes than Scott Moore, mainly due to his discipline but, IIRC, Moore came to us with an injury problem as well.

Unfortunately, we have to accept that Trinity have much lower spending power than other clubs and as such we need better "value for money" which leads to us taking "chances" with players that may have issues (either injuries or personal problems).
Sometimes these pay off and other times not.

Absolutely. The point being that we do not know the details of any of these discussions.

We will continue to the type of deal you describe where we can - it's generally good business, but it does mean you don't get first choice.

We are not far off a decent side, in fact we were a decent side for a good portion of the year, but we really need some extra quality to be able to compete next season. Leigh coming up will mix things up, as will a rejuvenated Whinos!

There mihht be some SL players up for grabs if a SL club goes down

I agree there djcool.

As it stands that would likely be Salford.

How about Dobson and O'Brien. Or even Lui

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