FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > Johnstone to Nrl
66 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4980No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2023Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23909.gif
'That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party.... So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin':23909.gif



Quote: vastman "I hope he goes, he’s too good for us and too good for SL.

We as a club and a game have let Tom down.

Twice he’s battled through injury and been better than ever. However the second time he came back to a team that had gone backwards. A team he had defended with heartfelt passion just before said injury.

Tom is a super nice lad but above all he’s a true athlete and an entertainer. He trusted the club or more importantly he trusted his coaches and fellow players to share his commitment and they simply haven’t. He has been betrayed, not the only one but certainly the most gifted.

I’ve tried to be positive but my heart sank the moment we signed Westerman, ives even defended him but signing players like him is a disaster.

No doubting the ability but he’s old now and he still has the dreadful attitude he’s always had. Nobody else wanted him except us, what were you thinking club. Brough was nearly as bad but at least Broughy has heart.

I can’t be sure but Westerman has team killer written all over him. Injuries killed us last year but this year there is clearly something wrong in the team. TJ for a start no longer looks happy when he scores, barely celebrates.

It may not be Westerman, I’m only going on his history. It could be any of them but somehow the signings we are making aren’t working?

To me they all look wrong with the exception of Wood and perhaps Tangata. Just my opinion but to me it looks like we’ve lost the spirit that made us formidable only 18 month ago.

Why would s play from the heart player like TJ want to stay for that.

Leeds under Agar? Hang your boots up now lad as that bloke will destroy you.

NRL, go for it with my support..'"


That's they way I see it, can't deny I'd love to see just how good he could be playing in that environment playing against the best week in week out.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1319No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Alchemist1 "Just not sure dragons right team for him how they play im sure boj wont mind me saying sharks with sean johnson would be a better fit !!'"

sharks looking over their shoulder for the dragons in the race to the top 8? ha ha ha
the dragons wingers have been our only shining light this year - so he may struggle to get into the first team as it sits at the moment

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1319No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: steve1g "I agree with an earlier comment that if he does go we should have a first option clause if he returns to SL as we'll get back an even better version because the NRL will stiffen up his defence and game reading to add to his world class finishing.

I think any fee should be close to the £400k Wigan paid for Offiah in the 90s regardless of his past injuries but doubt it will be'"

ad he would look great in the red v SG?

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain205No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20168 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2023Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Even though he'd struggle to get a game in front of this season's shining light wingers Ding Dong (who looks shocked every time he catches a bomb) & Pereira...or Saab who's just a poor mans Daniel Tupou...do me a favouricon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2318No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Sacred Cow "If we insert a first option clause then it would only be possible whilst he is still under contract. So we would have to pay a transfer fee to get him back. Doubt somehow we’ll be affording that.'"


If we put a clause in it needs to be if still under contract we get first refusal and if out of contract we get first refusal. There could be a difference. If the project didn’t work and the dragons allowed him to leave more than likely they probably wouldn’t command a fee they would probably want him off their books freeing cap space

RankPostsTeam
International Star5139No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: supercat "If we put a clause in it needs to be if still under contract we get first refusal and if out of contract we get first refusal. There could be a difference. If the project didn’t work and the dragons allowed him to leave more than likely they probably wouldn’t command a fee they would probably want him off their books freeing cap space'"

The difference is if he's out of contract it's up to him what he does, he'll be a free agent.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2318No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: little wayne69 "The difference is if he's out of contract it's up to him what he does, he'll be a free agent.'"


We still might be able to add a clause that once his contract is either broken or run down that we get first refusal even if out of contract. This has happened in union and football.

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player151No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I think T J would get into the dragons side no problem but would his body stand up to the physicality of the NRL. Suppose there's only one way to find out I hope he stays here but good luck to him if he goes. He will leave us with some memorable and breathtaking finishes.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5139No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: supercat "We still might be able to add a clause that once his contract is either broken or run down that we get first refusal even if out of contract. This has happened in union and football.'"

How does that work if he's out of contract, firstly if he leaves it's most likely because we are a selling club and have cashed in as per, secondly once the buying club have had their use of him they will either sell him early or get the best deal they can for themselves or just run his contract down which makes him a free agent to do as he wants, if and it's a big IF Johnstone gives Wakey first refusal it will be be out of loyalty to the club nothing more, could you possibly give an example where it happens in union or football.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3726
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Jan 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18764_1329753271.gif
Waiting for the 2021 RLWC:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18764.gif



Quote: little wayne69 "] if and it's a big IF Johnstone gives Wakey first refusal it will be be out of loyalty to the club nothing more, could you possibly give an example where it happens in union or football.'"

That's right. I hope he does commit to such a thing, but hard to see where Wakey would find marquee-level wages of the kind he'd command if he did have a successful few years in NRL.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain241No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20195 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: steve1g "Even though he'd struggle to get a game in front of this season's shining light wingers Ding Dong (who looks shocked every time he catches a bomb) & Pereira...or Saab who's just a poor mans Daniel Tupou...do me a favour
Even the st george fans forum seem kind to the idea of a pommy winger

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4231
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



It's not a case of having a player under contract, it's a case of retaining his SL registration.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3728No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Feb 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: dboy "It's not a case of having a player under contract, it's a case of retaining his SL registration.'"

That could only count for the length of time left on his current contract with us( which is the end of 2022 i believe) so he'd have to leave after a year for it to count, but even then it would need a transfer fee whist ever he is under contract at St George. After that he is a free agent and able to ply his trade wherever he wishes.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4231
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Sacred Cow "That could only count for the length of time left on his current contract with us( which is the end of 2022 i believe) so he'd have to leave after a year for it to count, but even then it would need a transfer fee whist ever he is under contract at St George. After that he is a free agent and able to ply his trade wherever he wishes.'"


No, a registration can be retained, though I pretend to know the mechanics and legalities of the process.

For example, Iestyn Harris was "registered" by his old SL club and the new SL club had to buy him out, upon his return from RU.

I think John Bateman was the same with Wigan - if he came back to any other UK club, they would to buy his registration from Wigan.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3728No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Feb 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: dboy "No, a registration can be retained, though I pretend to know the mechanics and legalities of the process.

For example, Iestyn Harris was "registered" by his old SL club and the new SL club had to buy him out, upon his return from RU.

I think John Bateman was the same with Wigan - if he came back to any other UK club, they would to buy his registration from Wigan.'"

Not really. The Harris one was due to him playing a different sport so the contract expiry time wasn’t activated until he had played his remaining RL contract time out. The RFL and NRL have reciprocal agreements on things like contracts, bans etc (see Ben Barba having to serve a ban when he arrived) which means if he played two years out there then no agreement would stand.

As for Bateman that was a different deal entirely. He signed a new contract to start on his return. This explains it. rlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/rugby-league-news/john-bateman-signs-nrl-deal-1874312.amprl

We could do something like that but i doubt the finances stack up.

66 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
66 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.6103515625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
6m
Game - Song Titles
Wildmoggy
40728
7m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wildmoggy
63220
10m
Film game
Wildmoggy
5619
18m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
25m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
33m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
Recent
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
30s
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
33s
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
45s
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wildmoggy
63220
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
1m
Game - Song Titles
Wildmoggy
40728
1m
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
3m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
3m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
4m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
309
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
504
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1255
England's Women Demolish The W..
1081
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1318
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1109
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1364
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1910
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2128
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2372
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1945
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2180
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2647
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2074
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2153
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +11,873 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
6m
Game - Song Titles
Wildmoggy
40728
7m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wildmoggy
63220
10m
Film game
Wildmoggy
5619
18m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
25m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
33m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
Recent
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
Recent
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Stu M
14
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
30s
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
33s
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
45s
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wildmoggy
63220
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
1m
Game - Song Titles
Wildmoggy
40728
1m
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
3m
2025 Recruitment
Rafa9
192
3m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
4m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
309
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
504
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1255
England's Women Demolish The W..
1081
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1318
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1109
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1364
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1910
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2128
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2372
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1945
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2180
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2647
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2074
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2153


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!