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Quote: J.T "I guess the problem is that your average supporter and even more so would be supporters don't care about which chairman is responsible for what or about balancing books/stabilising the club. They just look at what is happening on the field and how much it costs to watch and make a decision based on wether it is worth it. Unfortunately for Carter he is following 2 chairman who took risks and at times created excitement and interest in the club through whatever means. Carter is now left presiding over some of the worst performances in front of our lowest crowds paying the highest prices and there are only a couple of thousand left of us that seem to care.'"


Truth is you have to be able to do all those things and as yet we have not had a chairman capable of that. Problem is for any CEO to run a club like Wakefield there is no way around the fact that you need deep pockets and a willingness to dig into them.

Ted didn't have the cad and he didn't have the flair but he did have commitment.

Glover had flair and splashed some cash but basically didn't have the desire - he treated the club as a toy and neglected the detail.

Carter to me is a caretaker - if he has flair it's well hidden (flair doesn't always cost money) ditto cash.

If ever Trinity needed the legendary White Knight who's lurking out there it's now! icon_sad.gif

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Quote: deeHell "Maybe he reached his limit of what he was prepared to lose I can hardly blame him for not wanting to throw more money down the black hole. His biggest mistake of course was giving that clown Elston the control of the money. Has anyone ever put in such an amount of his own cash as what Glover has. In 30 years of watching us I don't recall it.'"


Elston now works for Glover in his window business?

Glover can't think he's that much of a clown.

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Quote: snowie "Well scarlet you making your self look a right plonker its come to light that yes glover did ask for the roofs to be fitted, its a shame he didn't pay for them and left for MC to foot the bill.
Now please crawl under the nearest hide away'"


Just to clarify because it is news to most of us that Glover had the stands erected but never paid for them. You appear to have a track to information not readily available.
I won't take you up on your suggestion but if the ground is in such bad shape it might happen naturally and if you are really lucky it could a few more of those who aren't willing to accept everything on face value.

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Rumour I heard Glover somehow got Rodney Walker to fund the stands. No idea whether it's true or not.

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I remember thinking how much progress the club had made under glover , how wrong could I have been. I felt cheated and totally let down. I know many have different views but the ground was a great place to visit during that brief period. Did they really give that many free tickets away at that time because I remember long queue s to get in.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Just to clarify because it is news to most of us that Glover had the stands erected but never paid for them. You appear to have a track to information not readily available.
I won't take you up on your suggestion but if the ground is in such bad shape it might happen naturally and if you are really lucky it could a few more of those who aren't willing to accept everything on face value.'"
and your still not ready to except how inept glover and elston was, keep sucking on that lemon

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I was just clarifying your statement regarding who paid for the stands because it appears to have been news to many on here. I was not justifying Glover where you get that from from my post somewhat baffles me unless of course you are trying divert the topic to what a bad person he was. I notice you did not reiterate that Glover did not pay, well did he or was it left to MC and the current board.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I was just clarifying your statement regarding who paid for the stands because it appears to have been news to many on here. I was not justifying Glover where you get that from from my post somewhat baffles me unless of course you are trying divert the topic to what a bad person he was. I notice you did not reiterate that Glover did not pay, well did he or was it left to MC and the current board.'"

Maybe Glover did pay for the stands in an effort to get mor people through the turnstiles but unfortunately those extra people did come but they probably came for free, which by the sounds of it, is the only way you feel you get value for money out of Trin.
There have been people busting their balls to try to get the club on a even keel but you seem to take great pleasure in jumping on everything negative.
I hope you will be as eager to post when we beat the drop?

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I Would of thought that if the current board had to pay for the stands it would be a positive for them because it would explain why they had to make such swingeing cuts. I don't see anything negative in that but I think some of you are jumping to your friends defence without reading my post. I would also point out that I have not lowered myself to ending each post with an insult.

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well I'm not the one making acquisitions and and I don't hide behind a keyboard name, so whether your all willing to except what I posted is up to you.

I'd thought you come back with a reply similar to this so for the forum this information has come straight from the horses mouth, you can either believe me or well the rest says it all c020.gif

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "I Would of thought that if the current board had to pay for the stands it would be a positive for them because it would explain why they had to make such swingeing cuts. I don't see anything negative in that but I think some of you are jumping to your friends defence without reading my post. I would also point out that I have not lowered myself to ending each post with an insult.'"


e swingeing cuts had to be made due to the club spending more cash than was coming through the metaphoric till.
If not Glover and Elston would still be here ??

IIRC we were told that Glover had "loaned" money to pay for the stands and it was a condition of the new board taking over that this loan was not to be called in.
Whether this still shows somewhere in the clubs accounts, I've no idea.

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Once again we seem to be entering the great cut debate. I'm sure savings had to be made for the club to move forward , the problem is we haven't. The club depends on people turning up either through season ticket sales or on the day. We were promised a team to compete in S L and that just never happened due to cuts. We have seen a club run with little or no imagination particualy over the last 12 months. We now find ourselves fire fighting to remain in SL. You can not spam up the fact that the clubs in a bit of a mess, we have a vast number of players out of contract, the possibility of no home next season and a new squad to assemble for next season. We stumble from one season to the next unable to make solid foundations. On the plus side we have a coach who knows the game and will get the best out of the players while ever he's around. Not good is it in all honesty. The club needs a totally new approach.

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Quote: lampyboy "The club needs a totally new approach.'"


No it doesn't - it needs an owner with bottomless pockets who is prepared to spend money in the full knowledge that s/he will never get it back; and there aren't many of them around.

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not likely to be any around with our record. Still it's pleasing to know that you are happy with the clubs direction.

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Quote: lampyboy "not likely to be any around with our record. Still it's pleasing to know that you are happy with the clubs direction.'"


I didn't say I'm happy with it, but I fail to see what other direction the club can take when there is no money; everything we do seems reactive and short term, designed to get us through the latest crisis - but I guess in the absence of a Ken Davey or even, god forbid, a MarwanK, that's how it has to be.

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