No positives for me today except for the sun shining and even then I didn't have time to change into my 80s casuals... So no positives.

Good post and very fair.
Moore would be the first prop I would put on the teamsheet for the next game. He looked like the Richard Moore of old and clearly has much more to offer. He WANTED the win! Ryan had his best game so far for Trinity in my opinion. Godinet, Collis, Sammut and one or two more didn't deserve such a hammering.
Fullback is fast becoming a major problem. A good fullback of old would have had Carney in touch for the first try but Sammut had no chance. Carney is a strong player and has to be taken by his legs. Sadly we just don't have a fullback of that quality of the books. Why not have a look at Seijka at FB, Sammut back to SO, Godinet SH and Wildie back as exchange hooker?

If Agar tried Seijka at full back the forum would collapse with a few posters posting incessantly that Agar doesn't know what he is doing or his best team.

Might as well then shift Mathers to LF and Sykes to prop.

Oh.ok do that then!

Sadly Agar has backed himself into a corner with the full back position. As poor as Mathers was yesterday he is the best option there short of giving young Jowitt a run out. Sammutt doesn't work, interchanhing Sykes and Sammutt depending on whether the team is attacking or defending doesn't work and I agree playing Siejka there would just enforce the notion that Agar is out of ideas and is relying on luck rather than judgement. I believe he had the opportunity to sign Greyston before he went to Dewsbury. Hindsight or not he should've taken it.

Agar also had the first pick of all the Leeds fringe players and got that wrong as well.

He's already proved that a million times over. As my mate said, does he pick the team whilst simultaneously sniffing glue??

We have two fb's at the club - Mathers and young Max Jowitt who's playing in the 19's today; if Mathers isn't cutting it, hand Jowitt the position and see how he goes.

Why the bleeding hell would you play your best SO at fb, and put one of those two actual fb's on the wing?! He's either dropped, or he's playing - if he's playing, play him at bloody fb!

As for Washbrook - I can't possibly see how he keeps getting a game - his value has always been in defence and he can't even do that any more; if we can all see it, why can't the coaching staff? Molloy played 1 game at LF early doors and was full of running; Anakin is a committed, no-nonsense player and tackles hard; there's two better options right under your nose.

It's baffling - I like RA and I don't like to call for people to be removed, but we have a team at present that is significantly under-performing against its potential; that suggests a problem with leadership.

I don't agree Washbrook can't tackle, but I would put Annakin and Tautai above him now, with possibly Molloy if he shows that form again.

All spot on.

Just looking at the stats on Washbrook he is one of eight of our players in the top 40 of missed tackles in the entire division. And Kirmond has made more tackles than him this season so he has lost his his top tackler tag as well at present.

His attack is non existant though. No tries, no assists, an average gain of just over 5 metres per carry (pitiful for a forward), just two tackle busts and one clean break all season, no attacking kicks and just the 3 offloads. He has also made 7 errors with the ball, more than most in the squad. Yet he gets picked every game. Why? The guy offers nothing.

defiantly the beer is better, with performances like that you need a good pint

I didn't say he can't tackle - I said he can't defend; Cas waltzed through him for 3 tries yesterday and Justin Carney threw him around like a rag doll with one arm on two occasions, with the ball safely pouched under the other. It's not an acceptable level of performance for a senior player - simple as that.

Think our main problem this season so far is the pack isn't functioning as a unit....

Individually..... and on paper I think it's potentially the best group of forwards we've had....unfortunately as a collective unit we are being busted up the middle far too often.....only two games our forwards have got well on top and that was our two wins......it's ok questioning the tinkering with who plays full back....who operates at 6 and 7 but the simple fact is that if our forwards are being comprehensively outplayed by the opposition pack it's pretty much irrelevant in my eyes......we could have had Billy Slater at full back the last 4 games and it wouldnt have made an ounce of difference.....likewise....we could have stuck with Godinet & Sammut but the outcomes would still have been the same....

McShane is as good a distributor we've had from 9 and going through every forward who has played for us this year you could give them all a positive mention in one game or another....I believe they all have the ability to perform well.....I've been pro Agar all along.....and still am to a certain extent....but with two former backs as the main coaches are we neglecting working on our pack? It's forwards that win matches for me......we have without doubt got a pretty average backline....but that is the best we could afford....for all the stick that the likes of Lyne.....Fox.....Sykes....etc.....get they have been far from our worst performers in my eyes....

I would have thought in games you could almost get away with a few average players across the backs if your pack is strong and can get on top of the oppostions.....

Anderson.....Smith......Scruton.....Moore.....Raleigh.....Lauititi....Tautai.....Kirmond....Ryan....Washbrook....Annakin....McShane.......

Look at what they are capable of individually on a going day.....they are all far better than they have been showing.....lets fix up the injured bodies....get players back to 100% fitness and we should have a pack on the field to offer more protection to the backs and get us on the front foot more....IMO....