Why because we will be a better team if we drop this clown? You are the cas fan if you want to keep him in !

Certainly were not a better team when he left the field, in fact Trinity got worse.

don't really get all this John bashing tbh. Sure, he didn't have his best game at the weekend but i actually think he compliments Smith quite well.

NGBC needs a victim, he's a vile (his word) sad bully I'm afraid.

Im sorry but how does he justify his place answer me this? You are the biggest bully on here you think you are untouchable you are a belittling idiot who try to make people look like fools with your spellchecker/thesarus infront of you. We both know you work in a factory selling bog rolls so don't get ahead of yourself.

There were 2 of us on here that thought we would get a franchise I was one of them. The bloke who sold us up the river you will defend until you are blue for some reason, you won't have a bad word said against him; yet a bit of banter for a player who doesn't justify a place in the team you are up in arms; you are one strange man.

I like John, though I must admit, since we haven't needed him as the only kicker his place is more vulnerable.
I also for a while started to think that maybe Wood deserved a chance and drop John to bench but on Saturday it showed that wasn't actually that good an idea.
So pretty much John needs to improve I'm not sure about dropping him. If we want to give Wildie a go then ok, but I don't think he is the guy. As said above, we need someone to partner Smith and I think John is the best candidate so far.

Ah the dummies out - you like to give it but you sure can't take it.

I don't try to make you look a fool, that is all your own work.

Yes I work in a bog roll factory, someone has to

I can't spell, wouldn't correct anyone tbh.

Why the need to to seek gratification and validation every time you occasionally get it right - what does that say about you?

I don't defend Ted, I seek the real story - there is a difference.

Perhaps if you moderated your tone - plenty on here have expressed a negative opinion regarding John. That is fair enough, but yours isn't banter or opinion it's victimisation and you have a very long history of it. Vile is not a word that generally springs up in banter. If you couched your comments in a less aggressive manner then you would get a less aggressive response, ever thought of that. When I'm on here having a go I generally expect the same back, are you following me.

Yes I'm fairly strange - I realise that. Problem is you think your normal and that's a real worry.

^^^ This

From my view, great attacking player, tackles like Shirley Temple. 2 real powder puff efforts on TV views v Salford led to tries. But you don't play for NZ for nothing. I suspect as a team we will be maturing like a fine wine as the season develops and we really do seem to like the warm weather. We are lightweight in the cold, wet and mud but seem to scamp around and look dangerous as it gets hot. Salford result will hopefully give them the confidence to relax and stop the frenetic panic rugby that seems to me to be trying just a bit too hard at times and ending in trouble when we are on top

John reminds me of the young BJ, in his first year he got bagged week in week out.
Didnt take the line on enough, didnt contribute, couldn't tackle.
In his second year he was much improved and has gone on to be a good SL player, and kicked us to death earlier on in the season.
I think he will come good with time, although Agar needs to consider a spell in the 20s for him (a. for a break and b. to work on his game, neither as some kind of punishment!!!) if he drops below an agreed level.
Stick with him i say!

That's a poor version of events. It was two big man on small man tackle where John was caught of balance and lacked technique. If a big man can't bust a small man then what are props for, why not have 17 halfbacks?

Very few tries are purely the creation of the attacking team, most come due to a greater or lesser extent to a defensive error. If there were no errors you would be watching a game that consisted purely of 5 tackles and a kick played exclusively in the middle section of the pitch. I'm exaggerating a bit but you get the idea - it just wasn't John day.

Agree, we obviously bought him not as the finished article but someone that will in time be a class player. He's struggling to find his feet but I wouldn't say in anyway he's been rubbish or not worth his spot, he just hasn't forced his personality onto a game yet and had that outstanding game for us yet. All this isn't that surprising really because he hasn't played very much first grade footy but I reckon in time he'll prove to be a very good signing for us.