Clan, that is a brilliant post. You should sent that to the RFL whatever the outcome is on Tuesday.

Nah it's a crap post. It doesn't involve instant and ready cash for the special clubs so who the hell at Red Hall would bother reading it let alone understand it.

To the honest, friendly and genuine WTWC fans, my friend you are making your self look foolish. We can go on until the cows come home, of our fans did this, your club did that etc etc. The simple fact of the matter is you DIDN'T relegate us twice, that was down to us, it happened that you were the team we played an a very important part of the season. I agree that what ever decision is made, the relevant club will feel hard done by, but the fact of the matter is we can't do anything about it and all clubs voted in favor not to challenge the decision when it's made. It is all down to who runs the clubs end of, it's just a shame that you didn't have your current owners in place a while ago. HOWEVER we are all assuming that Wakey will be going, but until 11am on Tuesday NONE of us really know......... do we!!!

We certainly beat you in two vital games not including the million pound game.

In 2004. We beat you at your place in a game you needed to win and you didn't. It may or may not have saved you in the end I can't remember exactly but had you won it you would have bought some time and at the very least avoided 1000 delirious Wakey fans milking the moment.

In 2006 I think it's even more clear cut tbh, we definitely were the team that did more to relegate you including actually relegating you than any other. You lost to us 3 times that season The "Never fear it's only Kear" game was especially crucial, if you had won that game you would have put us to bed end of. You clearly expected to win that game. We then put you away in a genuine relegation decider, to argue that we didn't actually relegate you is extreme spin and only a fool would argue otherwise.

I too think its a greast post Clan....BUT some of the people who are looking at licensing have cock all to do with the game and wont understand the underlying implications that you have quite rightly pointed out.

You keep living on that then if that's what makes you feel better. Doesn't make a blind bit of difference come Tuesday. You lot have dug yourself into a deep hole (off the field), as we did in 2004 (on the field, signings etc). We dug our way out of it. You lot can easily do it, albeit will take 3 years.

You beat me to it Richard brilliant post, I was thinking today along the same lines and was going to start a thread title ambition for the kids.

Last night while I watched the under 18s I wondered what the effect on the Wakefield youngsters this would have not having a Super League club in which they support.

They was very little between the two side last night so it does show that we do a have a good vein of talent and can hold our own and I hope we would maintain that in the years to come but from two years ago the attendance was far greater than it was last night and that in its self proves that the support is starting to diminish.

my lads coming up this season and has high hopes to at least push for a place if there's one available, at the moment I dont how committed he is if Wakefield isn't an option.

time will tell

In the end we were dependent on the Hull match too, and we'd have gone down anyway.



We lost 18 games that season; they weren't all against Wakefield and it was our performance throughout the season that got us relegated. Wigan also severely twisted the salary cap rules in order to drag themselves off the bottom of the table in the second half of the season, and were penalised for it. We also didn't finish bottom and therefore weren't the worst team in the league that season. However, the rules dictated that Catalans couldn't be relegated and so we went down in their stead.

What this tells us is that Cas weren't good enough to stay in SL by the rules that were in force at the time. The team didn't cut it consistently enough throughout the year, (not just against Wakey), didn't try to overspend to remain in SL and got relegated at the expense of an expansion club (as the rules dictated).

Call me a fool, if you like. I really don't care. but as the old saying goes: "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion."

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He suggested I was a fool, I suggested in return he might be. I know on here we tend to think you are all related but that doesn't mean you have to assume it included you as well.

Whilst the 2004 game and the "million pound" game in 2006 were massive and mean a lot to Wakey fans due to the perception of inflicting relegation upon your nearest and dearest rivals (Cas), you have forgot to mention an equally massive game this season:-

Saturday 21st May 2011 - Challenge Cup 4th round
Wakefield Wildcats 18
T: Glenn Morrison, Tommy Lee,
G: Josh Veivers 5

Castleford Tigers 20
T: Brett Ferres, Rangi Chase, Danny Orr,
G: Kirk Dixon 4

This game was also highlighted by the media as a game against "the 2 most at risk clubs facing SL uncertainty" if I remember correctly. A game with a "massive bearing on how each clubs seasons could unfold".

Its currently 2-1 to the Tigers this season with a game to come. Wakey can level the 4 game series or Cas could go on for a league double and 3-1.

Lets try to remember this season by the on-field thrills and spills - not the circus on tuesday that will decide the fate of a club we all know shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as "dis-enfranchised" or "sacrificed". Lets remember our great derby games we all love that looks like been taken away from us.

Thought that was Widnes and Leigh who went down even though Catalan finished bottom?

Leigh finished stone dead last with one of the worst seasons I've ever seen at SL level, a complete and utter embarrassment, with hindsight, the RFL should have kept Cas up, they wouldn't have been anywhere close to that bad.