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Quote: vastman "Nor in Simms is probably the best of the three brothers but his peak passes some time back.

So he and the Melbourne bench warmer are going to make HKR world beaters?

Is the bench warmer a proven quantity?'"

How ever you look at it they have strengthened more than us and thay where good to beat us last season.ill stand by what i said leigh been promoted will make things tougher on us they currently have a good squad and they will only improve this even more personally think its gonna be a battle between us leigh hull kr znd maybe salford depending on how they react to watson leaving.

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Quote: Trinityknight "How ever you look at it they have strengthened more than us and thay where good to beat us last season.ill stand by what i said leigh been promoted will make things tougher on us they currently have a good squad and they will only improve this even more personally think its gonna be a battle between us leigh hull kr znd maybe salford depending on how they react to watson leaving.'"


Where do you get strengthening from, I don't get it. You have no idea whether these players will do a job, you're just assuming on reputation.

Ditto, you're assuming that last year has any relevance to this, it has sod all to do with it.

I find your attitude a little odd, to be honest. Why do you expect the players to perform when you've already written them off, that's the sort of defeatism we tend to take the micky out of the French for, are you French?

Truth is some fans just love the misery and the worst thing that could happen to them is if the team won something. They seem to think criticism is positive, well it rarely is and it absolutely isn't when a ball has not yet been passed.

We are a potential top-six team end of. If we fail it's because we didn't try hard enough not because we didn't have the players. We should be competing with the top teams as we were up until 2019.

Anyway, time will tell.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Where do you get strengthening from, I don't get it. You have no idea whether these players will do a job, you're just assuming on reputation.

Ditto, you're assuming that last year has any relevance to this, it has sod all to do with it.

I find your attitude a little odd, to be honest. Why do you expect the players to perform when you've already written them off, that's the sort of defeatism we tend to take the micky out of the French for, are you French?

Truth is some fans just love the misery and the worst thing that could happen to them is if the team won something. They seem to think criticism is positive, well it rarely is and it absolutely isn't when a ball has not yet been passed.

We are a potential top-six team end of. If we fail it's because we didn't try hard enough not because we didn't have the players. We should be competing with the top teams as we were up until 2019.

Anyway, time will tell.'"

And the last 2 seasons we have finished second to bottom fact so no matter how you look at it we need to improve.where do i get hull kr have improved this is based on the calibre of players brought in has to those who have been released yes based on names on paper as to performces but your basing our chances on players on paper opposed to past performances (8 wins in around 40)

I am not in anyway giving criticism towards the players not in anyway in fact i hope that the likes of jordan max brad continue there recent developments and improvments and hope that the topous lynes and millers get back to the form they where in 3 to 4 years ago and feel mc and co are doing a great job in been able build a team in light of this pandemic where in.also as different to what you think i want i want nothing more than to see a successful teamout there on the pitchĺ although i do find you odd that you believe that a team that as struggled to gain a win to be able to be top 6 if not higher but the team who finished what q or 2 wins below us cant and wond wont pose a threat. . Im more than realistic and until we get through this pandemic staying in the league is my main hope anything else is a bonus after all we are having to lower our playing budget and as great as mc is hes not a ken davey

Also am i french hahah first time ive had that thrown at me born any manygates raisd and nred in this merrie city....

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Quote: Trinityknight "And the last 2 seasons we have finished second to bottom fact
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Errrm we finished 9th in 2019 with Hudds, KR and London all below us, the only "FACT" is you are wrong and not a supporter of Trinity icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "Errrm we finished 9th in 2019 with Hudds, KR and London all below us, the only "FACT" is you are wrong and not a supporter of Trinity
Ditto this year, yes we finished second from the bottom (just) but did it really matter when all is said and done as 2020 was not like any season I've ever known.

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Quote: financialtimes "Errrm we finished 9th in 2019 with Hudds, KR and London all below us, the only "FACT" is you are wrong and not a supporter of Trinity Did or did we not go into the game with london where a loss would or sorry could of sent us down just cos maybe a couple of other results went our way does not alter things does it
So my deluded friend fact that im not a trinity supporter is more than false i attened my first game i can remember in 1987 when we gained promotion and we beat wigan hull znd warrington in thd first few weeks i was at shefffied for first ever gzme st don vally stadium when players not involved had a foit race round the track.my happiest though was been stood on kop st ellznd rd winning yorkshire cup before the invention of sl

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Ditto this year, yes we finished second from the bottom (just) but did it really matter when all is said and done as 2020 was not like any season I've ever known.'"

And what do thd record books say spose on your theory saintts shouldnt be classed as champions then as it was a wierd season.

We have won v super league opponents 8 out 39 so im been more than realistic that we we could be in a relagation battle i sincerely hope not but been realistic that doesnt make me not a fan like zn idiot seems to think or its not me putting team or players down

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Quote: Trinityknight "Did or did we not go into the game with london where a loss would or sorry could of sent us down just cos maybe a couple of other results went our way does not alter things does it
So my deluded friend fact that im not a trinity supporter is more than false i attened my first game i can remember in 1987 when we gained promotion and we beat wigan hull znd warrington in thd first few weeks i was at shefffied for first ever gzme st don vally stadium when players not involved had a foit race round the track.my happiest though was been stood on kop st ellznd rd winning yorkshire cup before the invention of sl

Firstly, I'm no friend of yours deluded or not icon_thumb.gif
Secondly, we didn't lose the game so your comment means zip
Lastly, you stated it was a fact, it wasn't, you were wrong, my deluded fellow forum member c020.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "Firstly, I'm no friend of yours deluded or not Deffo deluded no doubt about that yes i got my facts wrong im man enough to admit it it spose and yes we squeezed past london on that night

But it doesnt alter our recent record and performces are poor go ask any fans who dont follow wakey and they will have us down as chance relagation candidates.which as like some im not deluded i can live with that i do qorey what leigh can achieve weather they will or not will be there to be seen i am not having ago at any player i actually think chris and mc re doing a great job under the circumstances esp with lowest budget out there.

But i will stand by my initial post i feel leigh out of all the teams promoted are best equipped to stay in sl due to the decent squad thay have built and the finances to go out and further improve

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Quote: Trinityknight "And what do thd record books say spose on your theory saintts shouldnt be classed as champions then as it was a wierd season.

We have won v super league opponents 8 out 39 so im been more than realistic that we we could be in a relagation battle i sincerely hope not but been realistic that doesnt make me not a fan like zn idiot seems to think or its not me putting team or players down'"


No, because Saints had something to play for, we didn't, other than a bit of pride, which we got back to a fair degree. HTH

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Quote: Trinityknight "Deffo deluded no doubt about that yes i got my facts wrong im man enough to admit it it spose and yes we squeezed past london on that night

But it doesnt alter our recent record and performces are poor go ask any fans who dont follow wakey and they will have us down as chance relagation candidates.which as like some im not deluded i can live with that i do qorey what leigh can achieve weather they will or not will be there to be seen i am not having ago at any player i actually think chris and mc re doing a great job under the circumstances esp with lowest budget out there.

But i will stand by my initial post i feel leigh out of all the teams promoted are best equipped to stay in sl due to the decent squad thay have built and the finances to go out and further improve'"


What finances have they built, they have been on the edge of going under for years, only Derek Beaumont keeping them afloat. However let's make this clear, Derek Beaumont is not a wealthy man in the same way as say, Ken Davy. He couldn't bankroll Leigh last time and in these days of COVID he won't this time either. I think you're a bit of fantasist.

Chriss Bretherton left ages ago by the way.

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Quote: Trinityknight "Deffo deluded no doubt about that yes i got my facts wrong im man enough to admit it it spose and yes we squeezed past london on that night

But it doesnt alter our recent record and performces are poor go ask any fans who dont follow wakey and they will have us down as chance relagation candidates.which as like some im not deluded i can live with that i do qorey what leigh can achieve weather they will or not will be there to be seen i am not having ago at any player i actually think chris and mc re doing a great job under the circumstances esp with lowest budget out there.

But i will stand by my initial post i feel leigh out of all the teams promoted are best equipped to stay in sl due to the decent squad thay have built and the finances to go out and further improve'"


Anyone who states “a fact” that is most definitely wrong is most definitely deluded HTH c020.gif

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Quote: Fishermanscap "
Chriss Bretherton left ages ago by the way.'"

This factually accurate lifelong club supporter probably thinks Michael Carter is still the chairman as well icon_lol.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "Firstly, I'm no friend of yours deluded or not
Completely disagree, to say his comments mean nothing because we won a game that we had to to survive is bizarre, we were one game away from relegation, whichever way you look at it or however we got there I would not like to be in that situation again!

As we have all discussed before, that stems from a number of elements but recruitment is no doubt one of them, Chester has got a couple of decisions wrong over the past couple of years (and some very good ones granted) and he got it wrong at Hull KR, we don`t have money to be thrown about which I imagine makes it all the harder but we need to get it right. I have no doubt KR will be vastly improved given Smith has the chance to build his own side, they looked a lot better as soon as he come in, IMO he is one of the best coaches in the league and that will show next season.

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Quote: financialtimes "Anyone who states “a fact” that is most definitely wrong is most definitely deluded HTH
And that is a fact.

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