No problem with anti vax brigade so long as they don't tie up any hospital beds.

I was going to make a decision on Boxing Day as to whether I was going or not but if you need to show a vaccine passport it’s likely I’ll be giving it a miss. I’ll be triple jabbed by then, I just can’t be bothered with the messing about. Once I know it’s a fluent process then it won’t be a problem, but I don't want to set off early, I’d rather have the time with the family.

What do you know of my medical status and history? Rather than put the worst possible interpretation of my actions you could have just answered the question if you knew the answer. I suppose that wouldn't give you a nice warm feeling of moral superiority.

I think there is a misconception here.

Vaccines do not stop the spread of Covid and this is typical of the governments woolly information.

You are at no more risk of catching Covid from an unvaccinated person than a triple jabbed person.

What you are at great risk of doing is dying should you contract it.

TBH I cannot think of any sane reason why you wouldn’t get jabbed. However the only person you are endangering is yourself.

I find that bonkers but if you have a death wish then so be it but the fact remains that the only person you are directly harming is yourself.

Indirectly you are destroying the ability of the NHS to treat sick people. That is a morally wrong thing to do in my book but what can we do, it’s a free country.

I agree with everything apart from that last bit.

Any anti-vaxxer/anti-masker, who continues to live their lives as though it's not real, and are placing themselves in situations where they are at increased risk of contracting the virus, are DIRECTLY putting the NHS under a pressure.

I agree but forced vaccination is a huge step. It would be counted productive as well, creating martyrs out of these people.

I don’t know the answer. I’m not even all that convinced that the vaccines have been properly tested but I’m willing to take the risk out of a sense of duty and a near certainty that the alternative would be far far worse.

What I and your can’t do is make others think the same.

I don't recommend forced vaccinations - but anyone choosing not to should own that decision and the consequences.

You have the right to not take a vax and increase risk to yourself, but you don't have the right to increase the risk to me and everyone else.

*I'm sure you realise that's the generic "you".

In answer to the first question, I think there is a lower limit for the covid passport and we are around the limit. I think it's 7,500 but not sure. Its less than 10k.

For those vaxed up, the passport is pretty simple.
You just download the NHS app and log in with your NHS number. Your passport is just a bar code.

Vaxing is pretty logical to me and I don't understand those that don't unless a doctor has told them they shouldn't.

Don't begrudge anyone who doesn't want a vaccine, hell I wouldn't have bothered myself but I saw it as a way to get the country back to some normality and I'll be having my booster to to ensure the buggers don't enforce another lockdown on the country.

To me smoking puts pressure on the NHS, drinking puts pressure on the NHS, eating fatty foods puts pressure on the NHS, yet people do that freely.

Why stop there maybe we should do it every winter for the flu. What about over sized people that put a massive strain on the NHS, smokers /drinkers? Once you concede the principle of free at the point of access the big Government controllers will want if for other things as a means of punishment for their poor lifestyle choices. At the end of the day such restrictions protect the NHS. I don't support at anytime the NHS will ever come under any scrutiny A big money eating bureaucratic goliath that can't do wrong,.

Covid has shown just how many people in free countries are actually undercover authoritarians. It has given them an excuse to openly advocate for segregation like policies. Not only that but they get mad if you fight for them to keep their freedoms.

I don't really know how they test it either, but just like everyone else, I don't know how they decide paracetamol, ibuprofen, flu vaccine, MMR or anything else are tested either.

I don't get the anti vax logic that this one is different.

The govt has a duty to care for it's citizens, often when they don't think they need caring for - seat belts, helmets on motorbikes, clean air zones, emissions-based taxation systems - the list is endless.

None of the things you cite as personal choice affect me in the way covid will - if you are fat or drunk = I won't catch it from you.

You say the govt is responsible for the health care of the nation = big govt; but not responsible for health of the individual = small govt. It can't be both these things.

As an example, we blame the govt for under-resourcing care homes (which are all privately owned!), but want our own individual freedoms to be consequence-free.

Is govt responsible for us or not?

Roll all those things together and multiply them by 10 = they don't come close to impacting the NHS in anything like the same way as covid!

BTW - I am as confused as many others, when all the data seems to suggest numbers are dropping (and I just checked the BBC site to be sure), yet restrictions are being ramped up!