I like Lyne and have done for some time. He has needed time to develop but the potential was always there. In the last season or so I think he has become much stronger and now seems more capable of breaking tackles and making tackles. His effort is beyond doubt. Some of the tries he has scored have taken a lot of scoring - running through tackles to the try line or barging through to get at a loose ball. OK he's not perfect but is always improving rather than stuck at a level. Week in, week out, he puts in the effort and the commitment.

Agree with all of the above.
Also think ,as well as being an Agar signing, the lad has suffered from the misconceived perception that he was keeping local lads out.
Unfortunately ones that were just not good enough, unlike the crop coming through now.

Looking at our other young British backs they all seem to be returning similar figures in try terms - seems to be a one try for every two games ratio which for me seems reasonable - obviously not included Tom Johnstone. I'd suggest we are on the right tracks TBH as all are young with time on their sides.

We certainly have fire power so it's really up to the forwards and halves to make it happen.

.....and his defence? I think I’ve lost count of the amount of times his name appears as the start of a post. It then descends into a slanging match between those who think he is the best centre in World Rugby League and those who think he’s rubbish. Does this not tell us something? If he was as great as you make out, I don’t think this debate and these posts would keep happening. We aren’t debating whether Tom Johnstone is good enough. For me, he may have scored 50 in 100 but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen him jump out of the line prematurely like a salmon and cost countless tries, spill the ball in our own ¼ several times and have many a brain-fart. Overall, probably more positives than negatives but if we are ever serious about being a top 6 team, he isn’t a first choice centre for me. Reserve maybe, squad player yes, but not first choice. This’ fulfil his potential’ comment has been going on for years. I think we have seen as much as we are going to. He will score some good tries and he will cost you quite a few too...I stand back and await the slanging match

Your entitled to your opinion - however you're not entitled to lie.

Nobody on here has ever called him a world class centre or suggested he fits the 'great' category - the need for you to state such a thing proves a point, at least on this issue you've just made an utter fool of yourself, does that not tell you something?

It's the silly errors and decision making that frustrate me with Reece Lyne. He's got all the physical attributes to be a top Super League player. He's big, strong, fast and can tackle. If he could pull all that together on a regular and consistent basis then there wouldn't be the endless debate we always seem to have about him.

Stick to your point Vasty. No need to start calling people fools on the first post that doesn't agree with you.

My opinion is that I like him on the whole.
He seems to be developing the slip pass out of the back under pressure too.

The biggest thing to say about him is that every coach since Agar has picked him as their starting centre. Agar saw something good and everyone else has agreed.

Give it a rest will you and have pop at someone else, he was asking for it in his actual post! and he got it - we are all functioning adults on here so I'm sure he's big enough and ugly enough to fight his own corner or am I missing something.

I realise you're a mod as we all do but are we really in such a controlled environment that we can't express ourselves as relatively tamely as that?

No need to ban me just tell me and I'll not bother posting - Maybe it's me and I'm out of step with this particular forum which you now clearly run, I accept that, you win some you lose some - I'm not sulking trust me but if this is how it's going to be I'd rather not bother and retire the "Vastman" legend with some dignity.

Thanks

Please please please do us all a favour and go.ive never known anyone with such a poor attitude towards anyone else who dares to disagree with you.this place might become a decent place for a rugby debate again

Vasty, you post some great points on here and many of us like reading them and discussing them, but if you start the name calling it will carry on through the thread and no one will then enjoy posing on it any more. It's as much for your benefit as anyone else's.
I'm not the only mod and there is no 'running' the forum, just moderating the extremes.

Go back and check your posts. More than 50% are either name calling or arguing about something not related to the thread. You get a lot of leeway but that is too much. Reign it in and we'll all get along just fine.

Well said Pop Tart.

I sometimes refer to this as the "Vastman Forum" rather than the "Wakefield forum" because that is how it feels at times. I see a very sensitive poster who at times makes great posts then other times takes things very personally or is on a crusade to impose his view.

Reece Lyne for me is simply a confidence player in the same ilk as what Peter fox was, creating an inconsistent player, though fox had an outstanding season or two. He's frustrating because he has the physical attributes to create a good solid centre like a Watkins or Atkins. One thing I have noticed is that he has lost that bit of pace, at one point I'd pray for him to get the opportunity to break, but recently seems to get run down, though that may be due to him bulking up from when he first came. Realistically though if he was everything we wanted him to be he would probably not be with us very long as quality British centres are a rare commodity. What's more I wish Reece all the best for the forth coming season and hope he can finally find that consistency.

I agree here Pat, I'm a Cas fan but stuck up for him on here in his early days. He had the physique and raw pace that no amount of training will give to a slow player. His skills gradually improved but like you I thought he lost some pace last season. Could this be some thing to do with the training methods as it was very noticeable last week how easily Rangi ran down BJB as well.
Reece has always reminded me a bit of McGillvary at Shudds and I wonder if he would be a better winger than centre.

Think we have tried him on the wing but to no provail. Boxing day perfectly highlighted Reece for me. He made great breaks but then fluffed 2/3 tries. Think I heard when he was younger most teams throughout super league and NRL were after his signature (think I read it on here).