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Quote: Daddycool "Don't worry sue, we appreciate your efforts immensely'"



Hope the good lady enjoys the trip to Singapore, must be on a decent wedge icon_lol.gif


Thats joking by the way.

Merry Xmas Sue and family.

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Quote: feline "yes and once again it was myself and another lady who went in in our very limited spare time on Friday and updated all the payments & did the draw & emailed the results out and sent out all the prizes. We can only apologise for not putting it on the website but we did not have access to that facility , but as you can see now Ant has returned from his holiday the results are on the website.

Happy Christmas everyone'"

Same to you Sue and have a safe journey and enjoy the family time together.

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Quote: Daddycool "Don't worry sue, we appreciate your efforts immensely'"

That's one hard Woking lady

Merry Xmas Sue

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Quote: Jason "Why do some people have an obsession with the prompt appearance of the draw numbers. It reminds me of a certain uncle I used to have with his daily toilet habits.'"


Sorry Jason, that I remind you of your "regular" uncle and just to add that nobody would ever call Felines efforts into question.
If the club had been made up of others of her calibre, we would certainly be prosperous and it was never my intention to question her efforts or commitment to the club, which are utterly commendable and have been for many years.

However, do you really think that we can "sell" a weekly draw by not actually having "a weekly draw" and by not publishing the results. We may as well not have a draw and just ask for a donation.
If we don't carry out the promised basic elements of the scheme, membership will drop and the revenue will fall and although reminding people of this may seem pedantic, it should in fact be helpful.

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Merry Xmas Sue'"

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Quote: wrencat1873 "
However, do you really think that we can "sell" a weekly draw by not actually having "a weekly draw"'"


But we do have a "Weekly draw" d040.gif
Just because the results aren't published as prompt as "YOU" wish doesn't mean there hasn't been a draw. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "But we do have a "Weekly draw"
Nobody is questioning the few staff at BV that are doing a remarkable job but in defence of Wrencat all anyone is asking for is consistancy. Its not the diehards on here that need convincing, they'll buy their numbers anyway. If its to suceed it needs to be a product non fans would buy and therefore it has to be transparent and consistant. If its drawn on a wednesday, a friday whatever and the results are published on a friday or monday it doesn't matter but it needs to be the same time everytime. If done well it will drive regular traffic to the website which helps sell advertising down the line. Done well, and its certainly getting better, its a 3 or 4 grand a week all year round, something we (the club) desperatly need and support.

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I think the club have made a rod for their own back by sending out emails to all re winning numbers. Its great when its all working but the moment someone doesn't get one (cause its in their spam folder) then its a complaint on here. As long as its on the website, Twitter and Facebook then that should keep everyone happy (although they do need to be published in Wakey express too).

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Quote: malpalu "Nobody is questioning the few staff at BV that are doing a remarkable job.'"

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Think the only way foward is to have the numbers posted on the website before they are drawn a026.gif a026.gif a026.gif

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Quote: lone ranger "Think the only way foward is to have the numbers posted on the website before they are drawn
Chillax man, they just need to be published "on the website every Sunday" as advertised when people were asked to sign up a046.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "neither am I
Yes I have bought into it, I've received emails and not received emails, Anthony has always responded directly and I support him and the staff at BV. But at the moment I still do have reservations about 'selling it' to family members who are not diehard fans.

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I'm with Wrencat, if the 1873 draw is to grow which is surely what everyone wants then it has be run professionally and consistently. The results should be posted on the same day of the week and at a consistent time (Yes, there maybe the odd week where it's a day late) because it's about the club portraying a professional outlook to new fans, sponsors and businesses.

Joe Bloggs doesn't understand there are only 6 staff and it's run by hard working volunteers. All they see is their money going towards a draw and the irregular communication and the fear is that whilst the committed fans continue to support it, others may drop their support

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Quote: Jason "Why do some people have an obsession with the prompt appearance of the draw numbers. It reminds me of a certain uncle I used to have with his daily toilet habits.'"

Well..I suppose some people expect the club is run as a professional business...as we would like. The reality is that is it like a charity being supported by well meaning and hard working volunteers who can't do a full job beacuse of lack of resources...Bit like the NHS I suppose...

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To be honest I view my 1873 as a charitable donation to the club I love; its a challenged group that needs support. I expect to win nowt and put the money in cos I cant get to all games where i live. I have long since given up on competency at Wakefield Trinity RLFC but I still love us!

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