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| at present my little un plays rugby league and football so is busy all weekend and gets to rest in summer...there will now be an overlap at the beginning and end of both seasons and he will be playing all yesr round..this is something that charlie bray said wasn't acceptable when he refused his transfer from under 12 to his own age group under 11's citing "burnout!"
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| In my opinion this is a great move for the future of the game. Really pleased with this, our kids will have better conditions in which to learn new skills and also competition from football and union is removed to a certain extent.
Was already looking forward to my son starting up in the not too distant and this only enhances the excitement.
Trudging around on heavy fields and cancelled games are never going to be the best environment for kids to pick up skills required for what is generally warm weather sport.
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| Quote: tamargrace "at present my little un plays rugby league and football so is busy all weekend and gets to rest in summer...there will now be an overlap at the beginning and end of both seasons and he will be playing all yesr round..this is something that charlie bray said wasn't acceptable when he refused his transfer from under 12 to his own age group under 11's citing "burnout!"'"
i have a sack full of bray quotes , ive just not been to the tip yet
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| Quote: jonh "
for kids to pick up skills required for what is generally warm weather sport.'"
twas a winter sport for many a year fella thats why they dive to score trys and why AFC players U S A rock hard pitches dressed to the nines in pampers and knacker sacks just jog over the score zone .
many more injuries to come imho but im sure time will tell, got to now gonna book my "SUMMER HOLS" 2 more weeks out of the season for the mutts
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| Quote: Mutley Cat "
Many many injuries are caused because of the wet heavy pitches especially the lower body breaks.
From personal experience I played in the back to back season where it changed from Winter sport to summer and the level between the 2 seasons improved massively in relation to the speed of the game. The main issue with the hard pitches was more to do with getting the skin torn off your elbows and knees rather than major impact injuries.
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| a few scuffs on hard ground may be acceptable but its the drop with the head on the hard ground that will be have to be watched if there's anything else to be concerned with is the heat on the day
the game will be quicker and will simulate what they will be playing at a later age if they decide to take it up
I would still like to see the water logged pitch
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| Quote: jonh "In my opinion this is a great move for the future of the game. Really pleased with this, our kids will have better conditions in which to learn new skills and also competition from football and union is removed to a certain extent.
Was already looking forward to my son starting up in the not too distant and this only enhances the excitement.
Trudging around on heavy fields and cancelled games are never going to be the best environment for kids to pick up skills required for what is generally warm weather sport.'"
Untill is knees/shoulders are busted by he time he's 16.
I can see all the good parts of summer rugby but the price to be paid will be broken bones.
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| How do the Queenslanders cope with it? I'm sure they will play on worse pitches.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Untill is knees/shoulders are busted by he time he's 16.
I can see all the good parts of summer rugby but the price to be paid will be broken bones.'"
Coaches should be able to adapt training to ensure this is not the case, my knees were shot by the age of 18 and I at that stage had only played 2 years of summer rugby.
I think the stats from the pro game show that the injuries have significantly reduced since the change to Summer. I understand the concerns but for me the pros far outweigh the cons.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Untill is knees/shoulders are busted by he time he's 16.
I can see all the good parts of summer rugby but the price to be paid will be broken bones.'" you can still get that in the mud but its more fun
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| has a coach i feel this is great news and can only inhance the skills and speed of players,if we are ever to match the southern emesphere then this was always the right move.like it or lump it has coaches its our job to give kids the skills to go on and enjoy the game and hopefully make a career out of playing, a career that will be played in summer trudging around in mud in the freezing cold in the dark isnt conducive to giving kids those skills required.
sure their are going to be broken bones,bangs on the head and burns on the knees but other than the burnt knees and elbows the others are injuries that ARE already happening in the winter months.i think a bit of responsable planning from clubs regarding looking after fields need to be put into practice to ensure we have the pitch in the best possible condition it can be.time will tell if its a good thing or bad but i dont see too many spectators that would like a return to winter rugby for the pros i certainly dont miss freezing my butt off on a dark misserable sunday afternoon.
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| Quote: jonh "Many many injuries are caused because of the wet heavy pitches especially the lower body breaks.
From personal experience I played in the back to back season where it changed from Winter sport to summer and the level between the 2 seasons improved massively in relation to the speed of the game. The main issue with the hard pitches was more to do with getting the skin torn off your elbows and knees rather than major impact injuries.'"
games are called in winter due to weather .... great image for the tough sport of RL go home boys its to sunny.
these bodies are developing , the chairman seem to be in favour yet coaches with experience of coaching men - youth - boys seem dead set against one main concerns injuries . you seeming to forget little john will be going to grounds that will be reminiscent of concrete and a long walk away from any water mains in many many cases . im afraid once again a knee jerk reaction from last winters bad winter as seen a panic.
another one for your pot matey through summer teams host galas , i have in my time seen not only more injuries in these galas (legs snapped/ankles /players never play again in 1 case) but in some cases teams end up not showing because they can not field a team due to cricket/holidays and all the other things that a regular basis.
im sure time will time j' im just not very confident
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| Quote: charlie "How do the Queenslanders cope with it? I'm sure they will play on worse pitches.'"
have you ever seen an Aussie not take sport seriously ?
1 . they play in winter
2. they will condition their ground
3. they wont have to walk 1/3 mile to play on there pitch and many of the best run clubs due to sport funding unfortunately have to .
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| Quote: Mutley Cat "games are called in winter due to weather .... great image for the tough sport of RL go home boys its to sunny.
these bodies are developing , the chairman seem to be in favour yet coaches with experience of coaching men - youth - boys seem dead set against one main concerns injuries . you seeming to forget little john will be going to grounds that will be reminiscent of concrete and a long walk away from any water mains in many many cases . im afraid once again a knee jerk reaction from last winters bad winter as seen a panic.
another one for your pot matey through summer teams host galas , i have in my time seen not only more injuries in these galas (legs snapped/ankles /players never play again in 1 case) but in some cases teams end up not showing because they can not field a team due to cricket/holidays and all the other things that a regular basis.
im sure time will time j' im just not very confident'"
this has been on the agenda for the past 18 months mutts so no knee jerk reaction to last winter,their has been many processes where meetings and delegates of clubs coaches and club officials have gone through,from the meetings i sat in on it was mainly the coach`s that have pushed for this certainly at my club and all clubs and concerned parties were given ample opportunity to withdraw or vote against it.so i dont think its been rushed into if anything its been a process thats dragged its feet for too long.at the end of the day its each clubs vote that matters and some clubs have chose not to go down the summer route and will move to a league that remains in winter has a parent you after decide whats best for your own child.
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| Quote: Mutley Cat "games are called in winter due to weather .... great image for the tough sport of RL go home boys its to sunny.
these bodies are developing , the chairman seem to be in favour yet coaches with experience of coaching men - youth - boys seem dead set against one main concerns injuries . you seeming to forget little john will be going to grounds that will be reminiscent of concrete and a long walk away from any water mains in many many cases . im afraid once again a knee jerk reaction from last winters bad winter as seen a panic.
another one for your pot matey through summer teams host galas , i have in my time seen not only more injuries in these galas (legs snapped/ankles /players never play again in 1 case) but in some cases teams end up not showing because they can not field a team due to cricket/holidays and all the other things that a regular basis.
im sure time will time j' im just not very confident'" it is worth try though as you don't know until you have given it a go, I would be tempted for the older players from the under 13s to do the summer leagues and below that do the normal winter league that way the older lads are tasting the game as we now know it and if they have an urge to play the game they are aware of what its like in summer, below under 13s would help to keep clubs running all year round and we know the ground will be softer
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