A tree has fallen down in Lincoln. Bloody useless Johnson.

He was probably hiding behind it.

You totally undermine your argument by referring to the government as Tories in a derogatory way, as if all Conservative MP’s and voters are complicit. Are all Labour Party people Corbynites?

You seem incapable of differentiating between Boris, who I agree has been useless and the rest who have almost certainly tried to do their best. This Piers Morgan style hyperbole doesn’t wash with me.

Until you drop the obvious agenda and stick to fact I for one can’t take you seriously despite your steam hammer presentations

Agree with most of the last paragraph WC, it reminds me of a scene from a Benidorm holiday hence why I don’t go there, the only point I slightly differ is that Liverpool have had plenty of huge success over recent years unlike us but then again they are scouses

It’s a bit quiet on our forum just lately, let’s try and get some debate going again. I posted the above a couple of weeks ago, when many were bending the knee, politicians, sports celebrities, etc denouncing those who, criticised the BLM. Well, thankfully, theses people decided to look into what the BLMovement, real intentions are. Egg on face, for some.

Have I heard correctly that they support some overseas terrorist group, I’ve tried to follow up my info on various sites but struggling to find any thing.

I think you have to draw the clear distinction between the Black Lives matter organisation, and the Black Lives Matter movement. The movement is the aim that most right-minded people feel of ensuring BAME communities have the same advantages as white people. The organisation however, have specific policy objectives that you don't necessarily have to support (some of their objectives I strongly support, others I strongly disagree with). Crystal Palace for example have publicly distanced themselves from the organisation today, whilst assuring everyone that they support the movement / ethos.

They, the BLMovement/organisation have spoken out in support of the Palestinians in their struggle over Israeli occupation of some Palestinian land. Right or Wrong, many people think this is Antisemitism.

Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "They, the BLMovement have spoken out in support of the Palestinians in their struggle over Israeli occupation of some Palestinian land. Right or Wrong, many people think this is Antisemitism.'" The occupation of Palestinian land is illegal under international law, so it's legitimate to criticise that Israeli policy. Antisemitism would be using the actions of the state of Israel as a stick with which to beat the Jewish people. A common mistake people make for example is to say "the Jews" have taken Palestinian land. It is not a simple thing to debate safely if you ask me, and if anyone's interested on how to talk about Israel without straying inadvertently into dangerous territory the Actor David Schneider wrote this https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/an ... 05941.html

Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "They, the BLMovement have spoken out in support of the Palestinians in their struggle over Israeli occupation of some Palestinian land. Right or Wrong, many people think this is Antisemitism.'" The occupation of Palestinian land is illegal under international law, so it's legitimate to criticise that Israeli policy. Antisemitism would be using the actions of the state of Israel as a stick with which to beat the Jewish people. A common mistake people make for example is to say "the Jews" have taken Palestinian land. It is not a simple thing to debate safely if you ask me, and if anyone's interested on how to talk about Israel without straying inadvertently into dangerous territory the Actor David Schneider wrote this https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/an ... 05941.html

No matter what you think of some of the people in that movement these things in my opinion cannot be contested
1) They don't speak for everyone who supporting the cause that has used the mantra of Black Lives Matter mantra
2) Black Lives actually do matter
3) In 2020 we shouldn't be discussing whether some human beings should matter more than others just because of the colour of their skin.

So, are you saying that because the actions of our forefathers centuries ago,(not just the English) that criticism of any country, community, isn’t allowed, and some nations should be allowed to continue doing, because our forefathers did so.