Just thinking, if we do end up at Dewsbury, how is that ground gonna hold SL games when it's attendance is 3500 or whatever it is. That hardly covers our own fans let along when Leeds, Hull, Wigan etc come to town. That's the one thing I don't get in this proposed move, the Stadium is nice & tidy but I thought we needed a 10k stadium to play in SL or whatever the number is. As MC as stated he wants to start looking at selling Season tickets for next year in the next month or so. Unless there's going to be so some upgrades to the ground we're going to take a serious hit in the cash department because of attendance.

That's been on my mind since the news came out, this year truly could be our last at Belle Vue. If that's the case hopefully everyone that's not come to a game before for whatever reason , or fans that haven't been in ages, can make an effort and fill the place one final time.

I don't know how true this is Shifty old boy so don't be shooting the messenger, but I was told on Sunday that just about the only thing we own at Bellevue were the seats in the Eastern stand, and that if the club were going to Dewsbury so would those seats, maybe that might go someway to answering your fears about upgrading the ground.

Not true, as far as I am aware, the bank own the land but the club owns everything that is on it such as the stands, seats, hospitality block.

That's how I remember it, wasn't the quote "everything above the turf is owned by us"?

Don't forget the Northstand roof, we're taking that.

The WHOLE of Belle Vue Stadium is up for sale APART from the 4 storey hospitality modular building with viewing balconies [ this fixture only is owned by present tenants and does not form part of the freehold interest] the total area up for sale is 5.8 acres, you can go to the Sanderson Weatherall property for sale site and everything you need to know about the sale is there.

By the way there was an extant planning permission consent given to build 106 dwellings on the Belle Vue stadium site which was renewed once and was due to expire in February 2016, whether this has been renewed again i don't know, there is nothing further listed but for further info on planning consent you have to contact Wakefield Council Planning Department, so i presume if there is still a planning consent in force for these 106 dwellings the council will know.

Without wanting to ignite another row, you’re info is wrong as far as I’m aware.

We do own pretty much everything in or on the ground.

However what is true and perhaps what was meant is that it all has virtually no value.

The terracing is basically rubble.

The floodlights are past it and not worth moving.

Ditto the boxes, which if my memory serves me correctly are meant to last no more than ten years according to the manufacturer so are already 6 years past their sell by date. Whether they could be moved and re erected at an economical cost I don’t know.

The main stand is a glorified bus shelter and has no value except to a scrap metal merchant.

I don’t know if we own the roofs over the northt and west terrace - if we do they may have a value to us.

Cats bar, some fixture and fittings perhaps and any retail equipment but the building itself has no other use..

Nothing unusual here - truth is you can build a stadium or a stand that cost hundred of million but without a team or fans it’s worthless scrap only fit for a bulldozer.

Our problem is that the above ground facilities are so poor they simply devalue everything else to such a point as the venue becomes untenable.

As Prince Buster says, the issue is all about cash or the lack of it - everything else is a side issue.

That's what I mean't and should have said, I suppose there are certain things that might interest certain parties, like for instance the scrap metal etc. but in practical terms the only thing of use to the Dewsbury ground are the seats presumably for the end which wants developing, I don't really know it just seemed reasonable what I was told.

Isn't the capacity of Dewsbury over 5000 now ?Yep just checked, 5100, not far off our average gate and with scope to develop one end takes it surely to about 7000 going on 8000.

Vastman is spot on is his assessment. Cast your mind back about 10 years when Ted looked at getting the stand at Wilderspool. It was probably less than 10 years old and would have been ideal to go down the East side. I seem to remember we could have bought it for scrap value. However the cost of dismantling it and reassembling it at Wakey was prohibitive. Therefore anything we own at Belle Vue has a scrap value and no more I would have thought.

That's why I did not mention anything other than the seats because of everything else being of scrap value, maybe the cost of moving those to Dewsbury might be prohibiting as well.

This is who has bought the super bowl site... www.88m.co.uk

This is who has bought the super bowl site... www.88m.co.uk

Looks like the 1st steps towards the Super Mosque.