The joys of parenthood

bet them moths got an awakening

Part of the parents charter, to keep emptying your pockets and it never ends

It’s the grandkids as well now, Snowie

wash your mouth out

I really don't get the issue with Crowther or why he's worth a thread of his own.

For me he was always going to make it eventually so whats the hurry. Also he isn't small despite what some say, he's bang average for a second row. He does the basics well and he has ticker.

No special attributes as such but that said he's the kind of player all teams need.

He could with application possibly become a top player - just look at Anthony Topou who was with us, all be it at fag end of his career. He looked nothing much but he played SOO so although size and speed help they are not the be all and end all.

FWIW if I were to advise Crowther I'd suggest the part of his body he concentrates on developing is his brain, in this world of robotic monsters that's where the future lays for the Crowther's of this world, it's simple just develop a Rugby brain - Watch - Listen and Learn.

I agree with this . I hope he develops into a good old fashioned ball handling forward - there's not one I can think of in RL at the moment but I suppose the modern game doesn't call for such skills from a forward.

Well, whatever anyone's opinions are, he's got 2 excellent backrowers at the Club to watch, talk to and learn from in Ashurst and Arona. Which tbf the lad probably has been doing since they arrived. Obviously, the Coach was quite handy there himself as well, so he's in good hands.

I'm afraid you are miles away there FMC, a footballing brain is definately one thing he has got , but like you say, opinions.

I think you've totally misunderstood me. It's clear that he has got a rugby brain, that's why I suggested he keeps developing it!

I know you're a proud dad (aren't we all) but clearly at 22? he's not yet the finished article in that respect. However he's definitely got it from what I have seen, smarter than you're average forward for sure. I feel the same about Batchelor so the option of having two ball playing support orientated S/Rs to pick from looks a huge bonus to me.

Hope that's cleared that up

i'm sure its worth it BLM when you're sat there watching him do it for the Trinity

Yes I must have misunderstood you

Batch is not a middle for me but a great explosive 2nd rower, left or right, oh Jordans 21

to have had both in the line on Friday was a joy to watch.

Batch is completely different for me, he has all the attributes to go to the very top purely based on how he runs with the ball and defends. He reminds me of a young Gaz Ellis.