FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > belle vue
63 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
International Star1273No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2020Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: BOJ042 "we have no choice but to move do we? we don't own the ground and we don't want to pay the rent the owner has requested - what choice have we got?'"


Despite being asked many times, he has never presented any request for rent? Therefore how do I pay it or even negotiate it?

RankPostsTeam
Moderator21024
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41119.jpg
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Daddycool "Despite being asked many times, he has never presented any request for rent? Therefore how do I pay it or even negotiate it?'"


That's even worse than I realised.
Such a poor situation.

RankPostsTeam
International Star522No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Sep 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Daddycool "Despite being asked many times, he has never presented any request for rent? Therefore how do I pay it or even negotiate it?'"



I'm staggered at this. Whatever is going on between the council & the developers has a really bad smell about it eusa_liar.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13797
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29100_1291104497.jpg
1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg



If were screwed either, as seems to be the case, I would call the Council's bluff on this and accept the terms they offer, if they ever get rounded to providing them. Watch them themselves when they suddenly have to back up what they said they will do and not have the club to shift the blame on when it doesn't happen.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5778
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
46978_1481681744.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_46978.jpg



Quote: Khlav Kalash "If were screwed either, as seems to be the case, I would call the Council's bluff on this and accept the terms they offer, if they ever get rounded to providing them. Watch them poop themselves when they suddenly have to back up what they said they will do and not have the club to shift the blame on when it doesn't happen.'"

Unreal situation isn't it and like I said before shows where 88m loyalties and priorities lie. So much for his words about wanting/thinking the best for the fans of Trinity or whatever he said. I can't believe we have to deal with another turd in the punch bowl.

I was gonna say the same though, call their bluff on their supposed Community Stadium. Like you hint at they haven't been right good at paperwork so far and watch them also backtrack on that offer for the Community.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8962
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Jun 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10751_1297625775.jpg
Fed up of these rollercoaster rides!!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10751.jpg



Quote: Daddycool "Despite being asked many times, he has never presented any request for rent? Therefore how do I pay it or even negotiate it?'"

The owner of belle Vue could be brought to task with a half decent council who obviously hold the key to developing the former superbowl site, I wonder where we get one of them from...

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain595No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2020Sep 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: The Avenger "You mean ‘in your opinion’ its “nonsense”
I don’t agree with you because the alternative leads to nowhere but the end of the club as we know it or maybe just the end of the club.

“If I ever offered an alternative” you talk as if I’ve been a constant critic of others in some way, however and this may be a shock to you but I don’t seek or need your approval.

My alternative?
I just told you
Sit down and keep talking!
If you think that’s “rolling over and dying” then that’s your opinion and your problem. The alternative is to move out of Wakefield with no plan to return and there are clear examples of what that will probably lead to. I therefore prefer my alternative!

I’m as fed up as anyone with the politicking, back channelling, fork tongued statements, half truths and lies but unless someone’s got a master plan that we don’t know about yet then getting back around the table is still the best way forward.'"



After nearly ten years of talking around a table what has actually been achieved ? Zero - we no longer own our stadium, we have no viable plan for a stadium in the city. looking at the outputs - the council (biggest land owner in wakefield) have delivered nothing in terms of providing a facility for the club to play in, that meets super league standards. So if we continue jaw jaw on a similar basis to the preceding years - what will be the likely outcome.

INSANITY DEFINED…
Doing the Same Old Things & Expecting Different Results

Its true civil proceedings will take time we dont have, and spend money we can ill afford to lose, but getting round a table without a potential lever will just sees the current impasse remaining until the club disappears or becomes a park team playing at east moor or stanley

RankPostsTeam
International Star5260
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif



The current scenario is we move to Dewsbury next season and then move again the season after maybe Coventry or Edinburgh because we cannot return to Wakefield as it currently stands. We gave notice to leave Belle Vue and we walked out of the talks therefore have we not also signalled our intentions to go our own way.
If we have a plan to stay or return to Wakefield it is not clear how the current strategy can produce this result. It will certainly facilitate our departure from Wakefield but maybe that is what we want

RankPostsTeam
International Star522No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Sep 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



That ignore button is brilliant icon_biggrin.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member275
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2018Oct 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/The Swedish Chef.gif
[img:2kpi8tyi]http://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Tim-Smith-Wakefield-Wizard.jpg[/img:2kpi8tyi]:Black Backgrounds/The Swedish Chef.gif



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "The current scenario is we move to Dewsbury next season and then move again the season after maybe Coventry or Edinburgh because we cannot return to Wakefield as it currently stands. We gave notice to leave Belle Vue and we walked out of the talks therefore have we not also signalled our intentions to go our own way.
If we have a plan to stay or return to Wakefield it is not clear how the current strategy can produce this result. It will certainly facilitate our departure from Wakefield but maybe that is what we want'"


What would you do?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6297
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
31007_1580947500.jpg
EVENTUALLY, WE'LL WIN SOMETHING, ,MAYBE, IF I'M STILL ALIVE THEN:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_31007.jpg



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "The current scenario is we move to Dewsbury next season and then move again the season after maybe Coventry or Edinburgh because we cannot return to Wakefield as it currently stands. We gave notice to leave Belle Vue and we walked out of the talks therefore have we not also signalled our intentions to go our own way.
If we have a plan to stay or return to Wakefield it is not clear how the current strategy can produce this result. It will certainly facilitate our departure from Wakefield but maybe that is what we want'"


Your opinion from the outside looking in, or from knowledge from the inside? If the former, you need to add the acronym IMHO. If the latter, how do you know?

Unless you can confirm the latter, I'll assume it's pub speculation pretending to be expertise.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5260
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif



Why how do you all see it panning out. I have given my view of the future purely based on what I have read. If any of you think I am wrong please tell me how and why it will be different.
You can of course use the ostrich button if in denial.
You ask what would I do it’s not for me to say it is for those who got us to the current position to have a plan which I suppose they have or why act in the way they have

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member275
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2018Oct 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/The Swedish Chef.gif
[img:2kpi8tyi]http://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Tim-Smith-Wakefield-Wizard.jpg[/img:2kpi8tyi]:Black Backgrounds/The Swedish Chef.gif



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Why how do you all see it panning out. I have given my view of the future purely based on what I have read. If any of you think I am wrong please tell me how and why it will be different.
You can of course use the ostrich button if in denial.
You ask what would I do it’s not for me to say it is for those who got us to the current position to have a plan which I suppose they have or why act in the way they have'"


A number of people have given different potential outcomes, which you are always quickly to disagree with...but then get very touchy when anyone questions your opinions, which you almost treat as facts.

There are a very small amount of people who know everything, and it's difficult to know what will happen without all the facts. You do seem to always assume the club is in the wrong though...which is a strange approach for a supposed fan.

I just think you'd get more traction if you were a tiny bit more constructive...just disagreeing with everything and then saying it's not up to you have a plan is like having a discussion with a Twitter troll.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6297
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
31007_1580947500.jpg
EVENTUALLY, WE'LL WIN SOMETHING, ,MAYBE, IF I'M STILL ALIVE THEN:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_31007.jpg



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Why how do you all see it panning out. I have given my view of the future purely based on what I have read. If any of you think I am wrong please tell me how and why it will be different.
You can of course use the ostrich button if in denial.
You ask what would I do it’s not for me to say it is for those who got us to the current position to have a plan which I suppose they have or why act in the way they have'"


That's fine. Just as long as we know it's just internet speculation at the same level as everyone else. There was always a suspicion that it was more than that, but for as long as we know it's just froth from the bloke at the bar, we can treat it as that. Thank you for confirming.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member10518
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2597_1613407166.jpg
This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. WTRLC 2012 to 2014 "The wasted years" Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2013, 2014 & 2015 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's right foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The return of the Prodigal Son. 2020 - Keeping the faith.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_2597.jpg



Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "
You ask what would I do it’s not for me to say it is for those who got us to the current position to have a plan which I suppose they have or why act in the way they have'"


I doubt Ted has any interest in what's going on let alone a plan for getting us out of the mess he left us in.

63 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
63 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.26220703125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40729
3m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
4m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4010
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
28m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
45m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
52m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
60m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
Recent
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
46s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
2m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
3m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
4m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
4m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
310
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
505
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1257
England's Women Demolish The W..
1083
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1320
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1111
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1366
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1912
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2131
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2374
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2183
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2076
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,990 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40729
3m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
4m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
4010
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
28m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
499
45m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
52m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
60m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
Recent
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
46s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5620
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
2m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
chapylad
7
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2588
3m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
4m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
4m
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
REDWHITEANDB
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
4
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
19
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
310
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
505
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1257
England's Women Demolish The W..
1083
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1320
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1111
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1366
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1912
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2131
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2374
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2183
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2076
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!