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| I am amazed that Stockport not only have our nickname but also the same badge which was not only displayed on the front but also on the back of the shirts. Why let the facts get in the way of a chance to have a go at something that the club can consider a success. It would appear many other sports clubs are happy to pay.
How much do we make from the first scorer tickets which I notice they sell.
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| What's £400? 20 x paying fans. That's before you weigh up the positive atmosphere, PR and any fund raising they do in and out of the ground.
FFS! What next? "There's investors waiting in the wings but they won't come forward until we get rid of the Dolls".
Pathetic.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "What's £400? 20 x paying fans. That's before you weigh up the positive atmosphere, PR and any fund raising they do in and out of the ground.
FFS! What next? "There's investors waiting in the wings but they won't come forward until we get rid of the Dolls".
Pathetic.'"
I don't often agree with Wollo - but this!
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| Quote: TRB "I don't often agree with Wollo - but this!
I don't often agree with TRB - but this!
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| I dont often agree with bre.......
I think there are two questions here that have become entwined somewhat.
The first is in the past have others benefited from the dolls rather than the club (i.e have the dolls owners benefited from the clubs image unfairly and at the expense of the club) and have we had a matchday choice on such matters in light of the senior club figures owning them and running the shebang - has there been a conflict of interest?
Did the owners of the dolls pay to use the wildcats image and association under license, im fairly sure if any private individual wanted to promote a wildcats brand of their own they would need to pay or would be stopped??
Is any income shown in the club accounts for the dolls other appearances??
Two points that i think need clearing up.
Secondly and looking to the future are they still affordable and viable, indeed will they be more expensive now with them not being connected to the club.
Its a tough one as the dolls are not easily quantifiable as an income stream or valued as a matchday benefit or staff.
I like pretty dancing girls as much as the next man, but i can live without them if i have to, there's the internet after all!!
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| Kinley's summed it up for me. I don't necessarily think we should lose the Dolls - the community work they do in getting a lot of youngsters involved must be very valuable. I'm just dismayed that, it seems, they are getting gigs elsewhere and no one at the club had the foresight to ensure they were part of the Trinity brand and that we would benefit.
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| Quote: Kevs Head "Kinley's summed it up for me. I don't necessarily think we should lose the Dolls - the community work they do in getting a lot of youngsters involved must be very valuable. I'm just dismayed that, it seems, they are getting gigs elsewhere and no one at the club had the foresight to ensure they were part of the Trinity brand and that we would benefit.'"
At the risk of stirring the cauldron, maybe someone (who was) at the club did recognise the value of the dolls, or perhaps by keeping them "outside" the club, it meant that they could perform elsewhere without conflict ?
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| I think we are trying hard to find a conspiracy that just isn't there, and even if it is, just isn't important.
We need to make sure, same as all other suppliers and employees that it is the most efficient and affordable for all parties.
The rest is history. EVen if someone took advantage.....they aren't going to give us any money back now. Lets move on
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| Quote: PopTart "I think we are trying hard to find a conspiracy that just isn't there, and even if it is, just isn't important.
We need to make sure, same as all other suppliers and employees that it is the most efficient and affordable for all parties.
The rest is history. EVen if someone took advantage.....they aren't going to give us any money back now. Lets move on'"
I'm certainly not looking for a conspiracy, I was just very surprised to learn that "our very own wildcat dolls" weren't quite as much "ours" as I assumed.
I think this news and subsequent news leaves a couple of in answered questions. Whether they are as important as is Elvis really dead, did the CIA kill Marilyn Monroe or does Hitler live on the moon - I doubt very much, but they are legitimate questions none the less.
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| £400 for how many people for the afternoon? That's nothing, is it even minimum wage?!? Some of you need to get a grip! They brighten up game day and little girls aspire to be just like them #cheerupyoumiserablesods
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| I presume the wildcat kittens have parents who will attend the games to see their offspring. I doubt the club would grant them complimentary admittance.
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| Quote: PopTart "Elvis is dead?
That's what the Hull Daily Mail and Gronk are saying!!
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| The parents of kittens do not get in for free although they do pay a reduced rate. I know I am one. Let's not forget that the Dolls are not kids. Are we stupid enough in believing they are all lifelong Trinity fans and are doing this for the love of the club. They are young women many making a supplementary income from taking or helping at dance classes or promotional modeling work. If they were not dancing for us they could be earning else where. Must equate to about 20 quid each. Big wow! Can we just move on.
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| I just asked a couple of questions for clarification, that's all. I don't buy that they are value for money necessarily or that we have the better end of the deal between the two sides. That's all.
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