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| Quote: snowie "now what do you do with the land
I'd sell the lease to Venky's, obviously, to create the world's largest iconic chicken farm.
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| Quote: snowie "but they would have new contracts with the newco club, if they don't they could move now for nowt
That's kind of the point I'm trying to make - they don't have valid contracts with any newco, so if they, like all other players, want out, then they're out. They have no value to the newco until they sign newco contracts.
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| Quote: RebelRebel "That's kind of the point I'm trying to make - they don't have valid contracts with any newco, so if they, like all other players, want out, then they're out. They have no value to the newco until they sign newco contracts.'"
If its a buyout then they will TUPE over and it will class as a continuation of employment. Their contracts will remain valid whether a newco is formed or not. Only if the Bulls are liquidated without a buyer would they become free agents.
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| Quote: wildycat "Have you got connection with the Bulls you seem to know every thing and you are very protective...?? just a question..
No link at all, but I don't believe in every anti-RFL conspiracy that comes along either. Someone has to clear up a mess caused by others.
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "No link at all, but I don't believe in every anti-RFL conspiracy that comes along either. Someone has to clear up a mess caused by others.'" it would be nice then for the RFL to explain why the cold shoulder to Wakefield then
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| When Wakefield were going through their troubles last year I was fully in support of any help for them I even bought a shirt! The Bradford case does annoy me a little (lot) and I agree with you guys, what support did your team get. Nobody (rfl) bent over backwards did they. What about the championship clubs who are gearing up for a chance to join superleague, they certainly will not be happy. Having said all that I feel for the genuine Bulls fans.
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www.superleague.co.uk/article/25 ... ssence-for
One of the many things that concern me is this mention of the consortium seeking RFL assurance that Bradford would remain in Super League next season. When Parkin and Glover asked for such assurances (admittedly during a franchise application process) the RFL flatly refused to give any such assurance. If the consortium go ahead and buy having obtained such assurance then it will infuriate me more than any other comparison between the two administrations.
With good future management I'm sure Bradford can be run as a profitable business with realistically priced tickets/season tickets, commercial outlets and a wage bill consistent with performance on the field.
The areas of Odsal ownership and Super League guarantees is a big area of debate.
I do recall the RFL offering to pay our wages in February last year so the £200k advance is similar. Sadly our administrator sold players which BG has not done. Odd really when he is strapped for cash.
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www.superleague.co.uk/article/25 ... ssence-for
One of the many things that concern me is this mention of the consortium seeking RFL assurance that Bradford would remain in Super League next season. When Parkin and Glover asked for such assurances (admittedly during a franchise application process) the RFL flatly refused to give any such assurance. If the consortium go ahead and buy having obtained such assurance then it will infuriate me more than any other comparison between the two administrations.
With good future management I'm sure Bradford can be run as a profitable business with realistically priced tickets/season tickets, commercial outlets and a wage bill consistent with performance on the field.
The areas of Odsal ownership and Super League guarantees is a big area of debate.
I do recall the RFL offering to pay our wages in February last year so the £200k advance is similar. Sadly our administrator sold players which BG has not done. Odd really when he is strapped for cash.
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| If the administrator requires £200000 to pay the players wages for July that equates to £2400000 annual salaries.
Will newco or oldco have to pay the fine for breaching salary cap?
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| Quote: rlfan "If the administrator requires £200000 to pay the players wages for July that equates to £2400000 annual salaries.
Will newco or oldco have to pay the fine for breaching salary cap?
The salaries are for both playing and admin staff. I don't think admin staff are included in the salary cap so its not a breach.
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| Quote: bren2k "The talk is of a consortium of Bradford businessmen from the Asian community - good stuff if true.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the administrator in Bradford's case has been paid up front, whereas ours was required to recoup his own fees from the sale of assets i.e players - not sure if I've dreamt that or if it's actually the case.
Either way, the wages are due on Friday and any business man worth his salt wouldn't take on that liability if he didn't have to; it will be interesting to see how that bill is covered.'"
Assuming this to be correct then who's paid this upfront?
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| It annoys me how the RFL offered no help to us but in a way I am glad the club has moved forward the Richardsons were dead wood in effect admin is the best thing thats happened to us
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "The salaries are for both playing and admin staff. I don't think admin staff are included in the salary cap so its not a breach.'"
HHaven't all the admin staff been made redundant?
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| Bored with the whole thing now,some on the Bradford forum still seem to maintain this "too big to fail" and superleague needs us mentality, and along with the expectation that under no circumstances should they have to part with any players it's becoming increasingly difficult to maintain any sympathy.I do however believe that this so called ABC consortium may have overestimated there strength with regards to the demands it is seeking from the RFL, such as the lease for Odsal must be sold to them and superleague status must be assured.The initial reaction from the RFL was quite measured, and specifically asked with regards to the lease, ok you want the lease but what are you going to do with it and where does Valley Parade fit in to your plans ? I just have a feeling that were the RFL seen to go too far in its asisstance in this whole sorry affair, the massive amount of publicity already generated and the nature of any revelations which may or may not surface during the inevitable enquiry might just be a touch too unsavoury,even for the RFL.
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| Quote: bensbag "Bored with the whole thing now,some on the Bradford forum still seem to maintain this "too big to fail" and superleague needs us mentality, and along with the expectation that under no circumstances should they have to part with any players it's becoming increasingly difficult to maintain any sympathy.I do however believe that this so called ABC consortium may have overestimated there strength with regards to the demands it is seeking from the RFL, such as the lease for Odsal must be sold to them and superleague status must be assured.The initial reaction from the RFL was quite measured, and specifically asked with regards to the lease, ok you want the lease but what are you going to do with it and where does Valley Parade fit in to your plans ? I just have a feeling that were the RFL seen to go too far in its asisstance in this whole sorry affair, the massive amount of publicity already generated and the nature of any revelations which may or may not surface during the inevitable enquiry might just be a touch too unsavoury,even for the RFL.'"
Just listened to another 15 mins of 'poor Bradford' on Boots n All. Starting to wear thin now. We didn't get 1% of the coverage, sympathy and support that Bradford are getting. RFL also wouldn't guarantee SL for Wakefield, interesting if they guarantee it to Bradford.
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| Is this still dragging on? Have they had another 'last match' yet? Not sure who is benefitting from this endless pantomime but it doesn't look good for the game.
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