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| Quote: TRB "Which player is that then? ![]()
It would be interesting to know if there have even been 969 first-team players. Squads are much bigger now and this year's turnover has been exceptional.
Even at an average of 10 new players a year that's over 96 years 
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| Quote: Alan "Congratulations to you Wildcats, from a Leyther! Looking forward to visiting you at the new stadium!'"
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| Quote: Trinity Till Death "The 'June Fender' Stadium'"
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| Quote: "The scheme will be built on a 240 acre Green Belt site, despite more than 1,300 objections by local people. The campaign group, which formed to challenge the proposals, attended two Public Inquiries and raised many issues, including impact on the environment, inadequate public consultation and the presence of alternative, less controversial sites in the Wakefield area. Questions were also raised about the financial viability of both the scheme and its developer.'"
It's interesting that she fails to mention that the 'many issues' raised by the campaign group have been totally debunked by the Inspector; or that against the 1,300 objection there were 15,000 statements of support; or that she herself has been criticised in his report for making baseless allegations during the inquiry, but having absolutely no evidence to back them up. |
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "rl]
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "rl]
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Its interesting that when the Council approved the application the Methley Residents Association were demanding a Public Inquiry. They got what they wanted and the application was scruitinised by HM Planning Inspectorate with cases put by those in favour (YorkCourt and Wakefield MDC) and the only statutory objector Leeds CC. Interested Parties (the Public) were also permitted to put their views - it was completely open and anyone who wanted to was allowed to speak.
MRA now dont like the outcome, what a surprise. I think they need to take a long hard look at what happened in the Inquiry and particularly the section where Interested Parties spoke. The cases put by those is favour were articulate, intelligent and factually correct wheres the objectors were an absolute shambles and laughable.
We had guys speaking about birds but when questioned had not even read the Environmental Statements etc. submitted with the Planning Application. MRA's case was that there had not been adequate consultation but Wakefield MDC's Barrister pointed out in their own report a photograph of them and a report in the Express speaking about the consultation. Ms Fender then mounted a personal attack on Peter Box which I felt was libelous which the Inspector seemed very annoyed about and has mentioned in his report. Then a Mr Cubbage who didn't want to say where his business was located until pressed by the Inspector - surprisingly it was in Castleford- attacked a report by YorkCourt's property professionals without any property qualifications himself and then started claiming that YorkCourt had no money - not the purpose of the Inquiry. Again the Inspector was not amused. The objectors did a fantastic job of shooting themselves in the foot and really helped the case for the application but its hard to put forward a good argument when all its based on in NIMBY and trying to stop Wakefield Trinity getting a Stadium.
MRA, you have had the Public Inquiry you demanded and the outcome is not in your favour, it's called democracy.
Its heavy going but if you get chance to read the report it makes intereting reading. |
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "Its interesting that when the Council approved the application the Methley Residents Association were demanding a Public Inquiry. They got what they wanted and the application was scruitinised by HM Planning Inspectorate with cases put by those in favour (YorkCourt and Wakefield MDC) and the only statutory objector Leeds CC. Interested Parties (the Public) were also permitted to put their views - it was completely open and anyone who wanted to was allowed to speak.
MRA now dont like the outcome, what a surprise. I think they need to take a long hard look at what happened in the Inquiry and particularly the section where Interested Parties spoke. The cases put by those is favour were articulate, intelligent and factually correct wheres the objectors were an absolute shambles and laughable.
We had guys speaking about birds but when questioned had not even read the Environmental Statements etc. submitted with the Planning Application. MRA's case was that there had not been adequate consultation but Wakefield MDC's Barrister pointed out in their own report a photograph of them and a reporton the Express speaking about the consultation. Ms Fender then mounted a personal attack on Peter Box which I felt was libelous which the Inspector seemed very annoyed about and has mentioned in his report. Then a Mr Cubbage who didn't want to say where his business was located until pressed by the Inspector - surprisingly it was in Castleford- attacked a report by YorkCourt's property professionals without any property qualifications himself and then started claiming that YorkCourt had no money - not the purpose of the Inquiry. Again the Inspector was not amused. The objectors did a fantastic job of shooting themselves in the foot and really helped the case for the application but its had to put forward a good argument when all its based on in NIMBY and trying to stop Wakefield Trinity getting a Stadium.
MRA, you have had the Public Inquiry you demanded and the outcome is not in your favour, it's called democracy.
Its heavy going but if you get chance to read the report it makes intereting reading.'"
Well said that man!  |
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Although I didn't like her style and I certainly didn't want her to win, she was passionate about something that was important to her. Unfortunately for her the only arguement she had was, I don't want this thing near me even if it is good for other people.
She tried her best and failed.
Lets be graceous in victory.
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| Quote: PopTart "Although I didn't like her style and I certainly didn't want her to win, she was passionate about something that was important to her. Unfortunately for her the only arguement she had was, I don't want this thing near me even if it is good for other people.
She tried her best and failed.
Lets be graceous in victory.'"
Agreed. But you have to have a solid arguement and I respect anyone who is passionate about a cause even if I don't agree with that cause. What I cannot respect is someone who to try to make a point makes statements that have no truth behind them and libels an individual and tries to blacken his character - that's just not on. |
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| Quote: PopTart "Although I didn't like her style and I certainly didn't want her to win, she was passionate about something that was important to her. Unfortunately for her the only arguement she had was, I don't want this thing near me even if it is good for other people.
She tried her best and failed.
Lets be graceous in victory.'"
Personally I think you give this nasty individual far to much credit - still she got exactly what she deserved, so I'm happy she is unhappy.
There are/were people with genuine concerns which is what the PE was for, and then there are those who just wish to be contrary and the centre of attention. That's fine on here, but at an expensive PE it's nothing more than pure selfish indulgence.
She can go boil her head. |
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The Andrew Glover Stadium gets my vote.
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| Quote: vastman "Personally I think you give this nasty individual far to much credit - still she got exactly what she deserved, so I'm happy she is unhappy.
There are/were people with genuine concerns which is what the PE was for, and then there are those who just wish to be contrary and the centre of attention. That's fine on here, but at an expensive PE it's nothing more than pure selfish indulgence.
She can go boil her head.'"
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| Quote: "[iYorkcourt must also satisfy a long list of conditions, before work can commence. These conditions relate in many cases to issues brought before the Inquiry by the campaign group. These include exhaustive measures to protect existing wildlife habitat, road improvements including a lorry ban on Newmarket Lane, investigation of potential archaeological evidence and sewage management.[/i'"
Had to laugh at this, giving themselves way too much credit there. All that would would’ve been a given with or without a campaign ‘group’. |
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Had to laugh at this, giving themselves way too much credit there. All that would would’ve been a given with or without a campaign ‘group’.'"
Correct, pretty standard conditions on a major planning application, nothing to do with the campaign group. The Council will have had them covered. |
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "Agreed. But you have to have a solid arguement and I respect anyone who is passionate about a cause even if I don't agree with that cause. What I cannot respect is someone who to try to make a point makes statements that have no truth behind them and libels an individual and tries to blacken his character - that's just not on.'"
I do take your point. I editted my comment as I was going say more about"her style" but decide that wasn' being graceous in victory.
Where she has stepped over the mark I was probably less upset than those she directed her lies at so can understand the comments against her......but from my point of view, she actually helped the decision. She was not well accepted in the hearing and the fact that she lead with inaccuracies helped us, once we had the chance to put the record straight. There is no Fender love from me, but in some ways it was good that she was the one who was most vocal as it casts an integrity question on the rest. |
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