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Asking on this forum as I can't find a definitive answer and, given it'll be a point close to your hearts, I hope you might know.

So lets assume Toulouse win next weekend and get promoted. Fast forward to the end of 2024 and Wakefield and Toulouse are both graded B by IMG but Wakefield get a better points total in coming to that grading. Do you then replace them in Superleague?

TIA

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Quote: Rhino at work "Asking on this forum as I can't find a definitive answer and, given it'll be a point close to your hearts, I hope you might know.

So lets assume Toulouse win next weekend and get promoted. Fast forward to the end of 2024 and Wakefield and Toulouse are both graded B by IMG but Wakefield get a better points total in coming to that grading. Do you then replace them in Superleague?

TIA'"


Only if there are 11 teams that score higher than Toulouse as well.

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Quote: PopTart "Hes probably busy.......I'll do it for him............The present incumbents should have made a stand because they knew through their lack of planning and bad management, that we would be in the championship 3 years ago and should have sorted a TV deal themselves........'"


It’s all very amusing but we were relegated and won only 4 games not much of a legacy after ten years most of which were less than impressive. I suppose that no TV coverage impact’s sponsorship especially with all SL games being covered but what the heck because we had 10 seasons under the glorious tenancy of our messiah.
I would say they knew the gamble they were taking but what does it matter they had a coach who could propel us into the top 6 plus he was leaving to let others sort out the mess.

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Quote: RWBA Wakefield Group "Only if there are 11 teams that score higher than Toulouse as well.'"

Thanks

So Superleague 2025 will be made up of all the A grades plus (up to 12 teams) the highest grading points scoring B grades irrespective of which league they were in in 2024.

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Quote: Rhino at work "Thanks

So Superleague 2025 will be made up of all the A grades plus (up to 12 teams) the highest grading points scoring B grades irrespective of which league they were in in 2024.'"


Yes.

Effectively each year is assessed independently. If in 2025 we are in the top 12 clubs on IMG points, then we are in.
It's possible a team that doesn't achieve the points would drop out from the current 12. Doesn't have to be Toulouse.
And alternatively, 2 teams from championship could be promoted if they get the points.

6 or 7 can be confident they are in. Next 4 probably know but there's is up for grabs.

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Let’s all have a laugh at how successful we have been

Games. Won. Lost Win %. Points Diff
2021 - 25. 9. 15. 36. - 66
2022. 27. 10. 17. 37. - 151
2023. 27. 4. 27. 15. - 439

What a recent history of success, how proud you must be plus to pay so much but to be given so little in return. It would make you laugh if it wasn’t so serious

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Let’s all have a laugh at how successful we have been

Games. Won. Lost Win %. Points Diff
2021 - 25. 9. 15. 36. - 66
2022. 27. 10. 17. 37. - 151
2023. 27. 4. 27. 15. - 439

What a recent history of success, how proud you must be plus to pay so much but to be given so little in return. It would make you laugh if it wasn’t so serious'"


Who are you aiming that at?
No one is laughing about our performances. Some just realise it is hard work and a lot of money to lift out of it.

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Quote: PopTart "Yes.

Effectively each year is assessed independently. If in 2025 we are in the top 12 clubs on IMG points, then we are in.
It's possible a team that doesn't achieve the points would drop out from the current 12. Doesn't have to be Toulouse.
And alternatively, 2 teams from championship could be promoted if they get the points.

6 or 7 can be confident they are in. Next 4 probably know but theirs is up for grabs.'"

Just another thing I’m not sure of with IMG criteria. Next week we have London v Toulouse in the playoffs for SL, but after this season, a team doesn’t get into SL by winning the championship playoffs, so my question is, will there still be a championship top six playoff if the winner doesn’t automatically qualify for SL.

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I'm very skeptical about this rating system. I think London or Toulouse could play in a car park and IMG would probably give them more points than us next season to keep moving forward with the magical expansion.

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Quote: 18th Man "I'm very skeptical about this rating system. I think London or Toulouse could play in a car park and IMG would probably give them more points than us next season to keep moving forward with the magical expansion.'"


There's no 'giving points' The criteria is set.

And IMG only set the guidelines. RFL decide your score.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Just another thing I’m not sure of with IMG criteria. Next week we have London v Toulouse in the playoffs for SL, but after this season, a team doesn’t get into SL by winning the championship playoffs, so my question is, will there still be a championship top six playoff if the winner doesn’t automatically qualify for SL.'"


Yes. Well for now but yes.

Winning the league and then the GF earns you IMG points.

For example. If you finish bottom of super league you get 2.77 points.
If you finish top of Championship you get 2.55 points.

But the championship side also has a chance of an extra 0.25 points for winning GF. So the playoffs are important to get a little lift over the lowest side in SL

- that's done over a 3 year average though.

Ironically, a team getting GF and promoted into SL, dropping back the year after and then getting GF again would have 2.86 points whereas the team who got 11th 3 years running would get 2.88.

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In reply to PT those who find it funny about the implications of being relegated. I wonder how funny you would think it was if we didn’t now have the backing of Ellis and had to rely on the Chairman following the departure of our CEO.
I doubt when the incumbents put this squad together they did so knowing that a new owner was going to take over and save us from their on field decisions.

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Change the record please scarlet. It is getting really really old now. We already well know your thoughts probably better than yourself at this stage. Everyone is looking forward and moving on but you it seems.

I really hope this goes through so you can join us and share in some positivity.

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You've lost me Scarlet. I've seen no one "finding it funny"

Let's try and move on. We are in a new division with a soon to be new team and new owner.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "In reply to PT those who find it funny about the implications of being relegated. .'"


No funnier than the previous 4 times we've been relegated nor the times we've had winding up orders, CVAs or CCJs against us. All of those previous instances happened before you appeared as Michael Carter's stalker so maybe you missed them. Hopefully when he finally retires you can follow him into the sunset.

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