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| Quote 4foxsake="4foxsake"The whole team from 1-17 was not good enough last night, they looked lost and lacked leadership. Somebody needed to step up and grab the game by the scruff of the neck but no one did.
That being said, I think Grix has been awful in the last two games, he was outstanding the first half of the season but since being rested for the Salford game he has struggled. I'd drop him and bring back Jowitt.
Williams has not lived up to his reputation, unfortunately we're short in the halves so can't turn to anyone else until Miller is back.
Crowther, I actually think Crowther has regressed, for me he's behind Annakin and Batchelor in the pecking order, not 100% convinced he'll make it, he has potential but he needs to start showing it more in matches.
We're badly missing Arona, Fifita and Miller'"
Grix was the only player who made any breaks against Leeds! I know he threw a wild pass that may have cost us the game against Leeds but we didn't deserve to win that one.
Nobody knows if Jordan Crowther will MAKE it because he isn't being played on a regular basis. In other words he hasn't been given a real chance so I wouldn't write him off at this stage.
Oh for a Gale, Brough or someone of that calibre - if we had one like that we really would be challenging seriously!
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| I've no doubt it is difficult for Crowther especially when you consider the amount of back row players we have, but that makes it all the more important for him to take his chances when he gets them, make himself indispensable to the team.
I fully agree we didn't deserve to win against Leeds, and I don't hold the wild pass against him, to be honest I think he thought MCB was outside Arundel. It's his issues with the high ball that appear to have resurfaced and worry me immensely, he was suspect against Leeds, and Dobson gave him a torrid time last night. Jowitt played well against Salford away, I'd bring him back for the next match.
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| Quote 4foxsake="4foxsake"The whole team from 1-17 was not good enough last night, they looked lost and lacked leadership. Somebody needed to step up and grab the game by the scruff of the neck but no one did.
That being said, I think Grix has been awful in the last two games, he was outstanding the first half of the season but since being rested for the Salford game he has struggled. I'd drop him and bring back Jowitt.
Williams has not lived up to his reputation, unfortunately we're short in the halves so can't turn to anyone else until Miller is back.
Crowther, I actually think Crowther has regressed, for me he's behind Annakin and Batchelor in the pecking order, not 100% convinced he'll make it, he has potential but he needs to start showing it more in matches.
We're badly missing Arona, Fifita and Miller'"
100 percent agree with this post, at the end of the day didn't really expect a win and the late changes - all good bjb and tupou plus kirmond dropping out of squad. Didn't help. Am pretty sure walker was a good two weeks away from playing ideally.
We looked knackered and with the odd exception nobody really performed (thought hubby and MCB tried hard) - ultimately we were out muscled and out enthused - 4 games in 2 weeks has just been too much.
Williams has actually been a disappointment all season and has not had one game where he looks like a top class player, last night behind a beaten pack is understandandable - but what about all the games when our forwards have been on top. Grix has been very good but we were unbelievably bad under the high ball yesterday,
Lets just hope we start to get some bodies back over next couple weeks or it could be a pretty disappointing end to regular season
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| Salford did a job on us. They learned from Leeds in my honourable opinion.
We are not as good against a rushing defense.
We couldn't get the ball wider quick enough.
As said the pack tried hard but we're out gunned. Not just in size but enthusiasm for the cause.
Grix tried hard but no opportunities. He's still the one guy that can make the difference.
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Hirst dropped the ball on his 1st three carries, but he was just one of many who let us down.'"
The first was a blatant reef out by Hauraki which was annoying as the game was settling down a bit and we were starting to build good field position. After the knock on was awarded Salford were 100% in control again.
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| Bad day at the office. A week to the next game with hopefully a bit of rest and get some injured players back, certainly over the next couple of games. Everything still to play for.
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| My opinion for what it's worth:
Does seem like an odd decision to let Anthony Walker go this week when we knew we had prop issues - why not hold onto him for an extra week? No way on this earth should Adam Walker have been playing - he was clearly not ready to return which is what makes the Anthony Walker decision a bizarre one.
Slating Crowther is just madness - as has already been pointed out there's not much he can do from sitting on the bench.
Grix's inability to even attempt to catch 3 or 4 bombs from Dobson put us under unnecessary pressure.
Losing Tupou in the warm up clearly disrupted us and I'm not sure Gibson was 100% ready to replace him.
Sio is playing crocked and injected up from my understanding and doesn't seem to be able to give 100%
For me, best players on the park for us were Arundel, Huby and Dean Hadley (who I thought worked his socks off and it will be a huge disappointment if he is unable to play next week against his parent club)
All in all, it was as has been said by many, just a game too far on the back of the recent fixture congestion and a mounting injury list. Having said all of that, it could have been much worse, we kept going and how many sets did we defend on our line, and how many goal line dropouts did we conceed. The lads that were out there did well to keep a very good and extremely aggressive Salford side (they're not in second place in the table by accident) to just 30 points.
I'm now hoping that Sunday's Quarter Final is an absolute war and win, lose or draw that Hull have to put a huge amount of effort into it. We have the advantage of 3 extra days rest, not sure that's long enough to get any of the missing players back but we just need to get behind whoever does take to the field and realise that we do need as many of our first choice players available as possible to compete in this league.
Onwards and Upwards
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| I don't know why Ant Walker has moved on but has anyone considered that he may have wanted to move to gain regular football.
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"I don't know why Ant Walker has moved on but has anyone considered that he may have wanted to move to gain regular football.'"
This is probably the case. He was a good worker and never let us down but would he have made any difference last night?
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| And is good business.....whether freeing salary for a new signing or just balancing the works.
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| Quote Fordy="Fordy"My opinion for what it's worth:
Does seem like an odd decision to let Anthony Walker go this week when we knew we had prop issues - why not hold onto him for an extra week? No way on this earth should Adam Walker have been playing - he was clearly not ready to return which is what makes the Anthony Walker decision a bizarre one.
Slating Crowther is just madness - as has already been pointed out there's not much he can do from sitting on the bench.
Grix's inability to even attempt to catch 3 or 4 bombs from Dobson put us under unnecessary pressure.
Losing Tupou in the warm up clearly disrupted us and I'm not sure Gibson was 100% ready to replace him.
Sio is playing crocked and injected up from my understanding and doesn't seem to be able to give 100%
For me, best players on the park for us were Arundel, Huby and Dean Hadley (who I thought worked his socks off and it will be a huge disappointment if he is unable to play next week against his parent club)
All in all, it was as has been said by many, just a game too far on the back of the recent fixture congestion and a mounting injury list. Having said all of that, it could have been much worse, we kept going and how many sets did we defend on our line, and how many goal line dropouts did we conceed. The lads that were out there did well to keep a very good and extremely aggressive Salford side (they're not in second place in the table by accident) to just 30 points.
I'm now hoping that Sunday's Quarter Final is an absolute war and win, lose or draw that Hull have to put a huge amount of effort into it. We have the advantage of 3 extra days rest, not sure that's long enough to get any of the missing players back but we just need to get behind whoever does take to the field and realise that we do need as many of our first choice players available as possible to compete in this league.
Onwards and Upwards'"
Yep pretty much spot on. It is a bit concerning now 2 weeks running we have been weak under the high balls, last week BJB and Grix were almost getting in each others' way, last night Grix & MCB were doing the same. It's a shame for Grix, because he's been outstanding mostly, he's just looked a bit 'out of it' the last 2 games. 
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