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| The super bowl will go to the highest bidder. If we've put an offer in for both at the same time I thought it was York Court the Club/trust in conjunction with the council.
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| Quote: beamer "Mr Rowley is a fan of Halifax RLFC, no family interest in trinity.'"
Who is he
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| Quote: chissitt "Is Swag still active now? although they all still post on here individually, I've not heard of them doing anything collectively for ages.'"
This is a fair question and deserves an answer which I’ll try to provide.
SWAG was set up in 2004 with one aim and that was to make the Council and the public aware of the total lack of community sports facilities within WMDC, especially a Stadium complex. It was not set up with the express aim of getting Trinity a stadium although clearly that was our hope. It was expected that once a dialogue began and it became a political issue the club would take the lead along with a Stadium Trust of some sort.
That was accomplished fairly quickly and by 2007/8 and the announcement of Thornes Park as a chosen site we thought the job was pretty much done as far as we the founder members were concerned.
The idea was then that TRB, Prince Buster and later IA would just help out as a voice. However a recession, a total retraction by the Council and three BOD’s, and a huge planning bungle within the last five years has meant that one of those SWAG representatives (TRB) has been forced into pushing the project and become far more involved than was ever anticipated.
It’s a testament to him and IA that they have stuck at it. SWAG is effectively in hibernation and has been for some years. The reason being that this is no longer a protest issue but more a planning and financial one. As such it simply isn’t suitable to be discussed amongst a democratic group such as SWAG. SWAG has fulfilled it’s original mandate.
Now here’s where it gets complex and TRB may wish to correct me on what I now say. People like myself and our friend Jinjer are no longer heavily involved, out of choice in my case. The main reason is that TRB and IA are invited to the meetings is as part of the Trust team, they may even be on the Trust now though I’m not sure on that. They don’t directly represent the fans or SWAG but they kind of do or at least try to.
I personally don’t get involved because I’m a hot head on hear and I simply can’t trust myself. Which is a bad thing because both IA and TRB have unless I’m mistaken signed confidentiality agreements to which they are legally bound. I’m like you I only know what bits of gossip I here and I don’t hear much.
What people need to understand is that these two are tolerated and have gained some trust and respect - but they really are small fry who can mainly just observe and comment but they have little power. The only card they can play is to get SWAG campaigning on the issue again. For now that appears to be counter productive. Knowing Phil as I do I am willing to trust him. I could ring him today and probably get the full SP if I begged him but as he’ll testify I don’t because it’s not fair on him or on people like yourselves. I’m not trying to sound noble I just know my limitations.
Basically unsatisfactory and frustrating though it is you have to decide whether it’s better to have two agents in the room who you can’t currently communicate with or have them outside the room in full contact but with nothing to say. For me TRB and IA make one vital contribution - they stop the whole thing being brushed under the carpet and forgotten about which I can assure you it would have been years ago if it were not for them.
Thats how I see it.
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| I understand that Council will not be providing any financial assistance for any potential bidder, unless its the mosque bid that wins then apparently they will assist with funding for a study , library and community , sounds good. Apparently Oliver Rowley sees it as a very positive project that will have a positive effect in bringing the communities of Wakefield together
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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "I understand that Council will not be providing any financial assistance for any potential bidder, unless its the mosque bid that wins then apparently they will assist with funding for a study Centre, library and community Centre, sounds good. Apparently Oliver Rowley sees it as a very positive project that will have a positive effect in bringing the communities of Wakefield together'"
That's the style
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| Quote: bellycouldtackle "I understand that Council will not be providing any financial assistance for any potential bidder, unless its the mosque bid that wins then apparently they will assist with funding for a study Centre, library and community Centre, sounds good. Apparently Oliver Rowley sees it as a very positive project that will have a positive effect in bringing the communities of Wakefield together'"
So York court/trust in conjunction with council are looking to purchase the ground boundaries and super bowl. Another group has bid for the super bowl to be turned into a mosque with funding from the council. Or is it the same bid? A study centre library and community centre can be incorporated in the new east stand at the community stadium can't it.
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| Well I heard that Boris is behind a plan to build the next London airport on the river Calder. I have never read so much unsubstantiated rubbish, but yet others add to it. We now have a councillor whose husband might or might not support Halifax only willing to put council money which she is not responsible for in the building of a mosque.
I know we like to play the down trodden card with everyone against us, but where we are is down to us and it is up to us to move forward without continually putting out the begging bowl because no one is interested anymore. We do not help ourselves with our performances on the field or the state we have allowed the ground and surrounding area get into.
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "So York court/trust in conjunction with council are looking to purchase the ground boundaries and super bowl. Another group has bid for the super bowl to be turned into a mosque with funding from the council. Or is it the same bid? A study centre library and community centre can be incorporated in the new east stand at the community stadium can't it.'"
Could be wrong but i believe the bid is just for the ground, not the superbowl site at this stage. Two seperate agents, two seperate bidding processes should the first one be successful.
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| Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Well I heard that Boris is behind a plan to build the next London airport on the river Calder. I have never read so much unsubstantiated rubbish, but yet others add to it. We now have a councillor whose husband might or might not support Halifax only willing to put council money which she is not responsible for in the building of a mosque.
I know we like to play the down trodden card with everyone against us, but where we are is down to us and it is up to us to move forward without continually putting out the begging bowl because no one is interested anymore. We do not help ourselves with our performances on the field or the state we have allowed the ground and surrounding area get into.ote]
I get the gist of what you mean and I'm sure you mean by 'us' you surely mean previous reckless administrations and owners - not the humble supporters, many of whom like me had shares in the club, which were swallowed up by a previous owner!
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I remember the story about the mosque first appearing here:-
www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-6315196
There is 6 already in Wakefield and our beloved council are willing to fund another one !
I know you can't choose your neighbours but having a mosque built next to the stadium will look ridiculous. Its bad enough at Batley but at least theirs isn't bang outside the stadium.
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I remember the story about the mosque first appearing here:-
www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-6315196
There is 6 already in Wakefield and our beloved council are willing to fund another one !
I know you can't choose your neighbours but having a mosque built next to the stadium will look ridiculous. Its bad enough at Batley but at least theirs isn't bang outside the stadium.
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| Quote: Tigerade "I remember the story about the mosque first appearing here:-
Totally different story
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| A Mosque in place of the Superbowl would certainly devalue the ground as far as future building land. The ground would instantly be inside the Ghetto rather than on the edge.
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| This must not be connected because why would you use your own money when the council are willing to fund one for you according to what someone was told on here. I am surprised anyone believes what a newspaper writes because I go with unfounded hearsay any day.
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| Blimey even I'm.stunned by this mosque development.
There must be something good for the club off it tho? Maybe we could cut costs on the half time hooter and time it with the call for prayers.
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| Quote: Cats13 "Blimey even I'm.stunned by this mosque development.
There must be something good for the club off it tho? Maybe we could cut costs on the half time hooter and time it with the call for prayers.'"
They can say a few for us and lift the alleged gypsey curse
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