Indeed - I don't read your board, so I guess I've only seen the posts of some of the more hyperactive Salford fans who've posted on here and the VT; Hull FC is a good lesson in a new owner making bold claims, getting the fans all excited, only to find out that RL doesn't quite bend to their will in the way that they may be used to.

The Salford project is an exciting one and I'm genuinely pleased for the fans of the club - I hope it works out (without Tim Smith) but I think it will take a while.

Message to Micka - what the hell has that got to do with anything.

You really are a foolish poster. The vote was put to the shareholders as it had to be and they agreed almost unanimously to merge.

Added to that there was virtually no opposition from the terraces. Clarky and a few others had a go, one of the posters on here Jinjer bravely staged a walk on protest but he will be the first to admit there was almost total indifference from most fans. In fact if I recall those making the protest took some abuse at the time.

As for Cas, of course they rejected it because they knew they were safe.

So again answer the question - who got this club back in SL, who bankrolled it for ten years etc etc? I bet it wasn't you who put your house up as insurance against the CVA caused by the last White Knight Mr Pearman blatant lies. People like you talk the talk whilst others put their money where there mouth are.

I'm sick to death of bar room lawyers trying to re-write history to suit their petty agendas. In my experience I have come across many club directors and some are as dumb as soup but non deliberately meant to harm the club as they all thought they were doing their best at the time.

Give it a rest please.

Is this the same Tim Smith that was being pulled limb from limb by some on this forum after the Warrington game?

Yes it is (last season) and TBF he deserved what he got.
Not because of anything more than disrespecting the coaching staff on the field (he was subsequently subbed and booed by a section of the support, being at a new club, team playing poorly, high expectations - probably not reasons for booing him when combining any of those factors with the players mental health problem however ignoring coaching instruction was poor form and he kopped it.
That said I can't remember him putting a foot wrong since and it was (until you brought it up) water under the bridge

I appreciate your point and i got my wires crossed, it was the Hull game on Easter Monday that Tim Smith was getting criticism for. He is a quality player but sometimes when he doesn't fire , people are quick to point the finger.

Would that be the Fickle Finger... or another one?

Doubt if its relevant but a rumour i heard was that when elstone signed players before agar came he gave over generous contracts,subsequently agar is moving them on to free up money and get players in on sensible contracts,Also it was said some are hard to shift cos there contracts are too large for their return[ playing ability].

Ala a certain Vincent Mellars. Who will take him ? The lads been laughing all the way to RBS since he signed.

I think there is more than a grain of truth in this......Ellis, Mellars and Mariano although Southern and John were signed by Agar and probably fit the same mould of contracts too large for the return.Who's next then Wilkes?

Interesting that Wilkes should be mentioned as one who maybe released/ shown the door. Our CEO was very unprofessional towards Ollie in the hospitality stand, within earshot of regular fans. He seemed to take great delight in passing a snide comment when Ollie knocked on in the first half.

The Finger can sometimes be Fickle, but i prefer to be constructive, rather than destructive. Been watching regular since the 'Glory Days' under Len Casey!

If we let T Smith go / sold him. It would signal a turn in the fans thoughts on the current regime. I dont think they'd dare do it.

Oh dear, thats not very professional.

It'll be ignored on here.

What will????

Doesn't surprise me in the least. You will always get this kind of banter/sledging amongst players and Coaching staff. However two people in particular the CEO and the Head Coach should be above it for obvious reasons.

I don't know if what you say is true (no offence) but I've heard the odd comments myself at the club through the years that were unprofessional.

What's especially stupid about this alleged dig is that Elston re-signed Wilkes and was here the first time. Any of us who have watched Ollie both times will know that grafter and decent player though he is he has a tendency to knock on, it's not new. Did Jim not notice or remember this before waving the cash!