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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Really? I can only imagine if this is the case some idiots from Trinity will take it upon themselves to cause bother at WR in the return fixture to land Cas with a fine.'"
Some Cas fans mentioned this at the time, there's nothing to stop people going to other teams games to cause bother and get them fined.
Not like the RFL to not properly think things through though.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Really? I can only imagine if this is the case some idiots from Trinity will take it upon themselves to cause bother at WR in the return fixture to land Cas with a fine.'"
Quite possible and wouldn't surprize me at all.
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| Quote: Gronk! "The RFL have previously said the home team is responsible for the behaviour of BOTH sets of fans which is why only the home team will receive a fine.
Cas have reminded the RFL of this stance, and if they choose to ignore it further action will be taken.'"
Incorrect.
The home team is responsible for the CONTROL of both sets of fans, BOTH sides are responsible for the BEHAVIOUR of their own fans. Otherwise as stated above, what is to stop any visiting teams fans starting a fight on the terracing at WR and getting you a fine whilst they get off scot free?
As the trouble, whether either side want to admit it or not, was instigating by idiots on BOTH sides then the outcome will almost definately be one of two things -
a) Both sides get a warning and placed on probation, with plans required to to prevent the situation happening again.
b) As above but with fines handed out to BOTH teams for fans behaviour and an extra fine for Wakefield for failing to control the crowd adequately.
I would imagine b is the most likely outcome.
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| Quote: Gronk! "Some Cas fans mentioned this at the time, there's nothing to stop people going to other teams games to cause bother and get them fined.
Not like the RFL to not properly think things through though.'"
Regarding other fans at games. There were a group of 8 Fev fans at the Wakey/Cas game last Friday. Not saying they did anything wrong but I know them and know they were at the game.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Correct. The management (or should that be mismanagement) of the game is entirely down to Wakey. I know a few Cas fans who sustained facial injuries on Friday night. I have seen the photo's and they have been sent to the RFL along with countless E-mails and video footage from the game.
The RFL enquiry will also be looking at Glovers attempt to segregate the fans, his subsequent climb-down after Wrights intervention and the legality of selling tickets and changing the entrance policy.
The stewards report and Match Commissioner's report should make good reading - 38 kicked out of the ground apparently. A touch judge coined and beer glasses thrown from the Benedorn flats.'"
To be fair some Wakefield fans were injured as well. And they weren't all Wakefield fans kicked out either though were they? Both clubs will cop it for this incident as both sets of fans were to blame. Wakefield will get an extra carpetting because of the failed segregation issue and both CEO's will be asked why the whole pre-match issue was played out on club websites rather than discussed in person. Neither team will come out of it looking good and quite frankly neither should they.
Part of the problem is the pettiness between Elston & Wright, it needs sorting and now. Both are as bad as each other and need to grow up.
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| I think the segregation was mostly to blame. It created far too much of an 'Us versus Them' atmosphere. It's no problem segregating fans at opposite ends of the field, but in the same stand...??? A recipe for disaster.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Correct. The management (or should that be mismanagement) of the game is entirely down to Wakey.'"
Not true, as pointed out by sixtogo.
You're at risk of getting dizzy if you stay up on that high horse too long; the situation at BV on Friday night was a result of several errors of judgement and some idiotic behaviour from a small minority of drunken morons - nothing more, nothing less.
Both clubs should receive a rap on the knuckles for their failures to communicate properly in the lead-up to the game. WTW made some hasty decisions but probably for the right reasons; Dickie Wright stoked the flames by making a statement on his own website that amounted to "We're Castleford and we'll stand where we want." Equally, the governing body made a poor decision to stage an evening match on a bank holiday.
Given WTW's previously impeccable record for crowd behaviour, I'd feel a bit aggrieved if we get a fine; sometimes, the best you can do when something goes wrong is learn from it, rather than playing the blame game.
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| Quote: sixtogo "Part of the problem is the pettiness between Elston & Wright, it needs sorting and now. Both are as bad as each other and need to grow up.'"
is james elston petty or just totally out of his depth? i take your point about wright, he's a chopper.
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| Quote: Tigerade "
Glovers attempt to segregate the fans, his subsequent climb-down after Wrights intervention and the legality of selling tickets and changing the entrance policy'"
Do you think that if you say this often enough it will eventually become true?
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| Quote: coco the fullback "Do you think that if you say this often enough it will eventually become true?'"
Well it is true HTH.
Selling "general admission" tickets then making them not general admission is in fact illegal and false advertising.
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| Quote: coco the fullback "Do you think that if you say this often enough it will eventually become true?'"
Indeed. There are some rather desperate 'postings' on this thread aren't there??
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| Quote: Gronk! "Well it is true HTH.
Selling "general admission" tickets then making them not general admission is in fact illegal and false advertising.'"
HTH?
Oh dear
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| Quote: Tigerade "Regarding other fans at games. There were a group of 8 Fev fans at the Wakey/Cas game last Friday. Not saying they did anything wrong but I know them and know they were at the game.'"
if they didnt do anything wrong why mention it?
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| Quote: Gronk! "Well it is true HTH.
Selling "general admission" tickets then making them not general admission is in fact illegal and false advertising.'"
Wrong again. General admission means you can stand anywhere unless that area is reserved. So theortically if WTW want to reserve an area for their fans they can. If you had have bought tickets that said 'North Stand' on them and then was refused entry for no good reason then that would be illegal.
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I wonder what Elston means by "the clubs zero tolerance policy to unacceptable behaviour."
wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wil ... n/2012/04/
To date my view on zero tolerance this season has been harsher than the one by the club and stewards so far. Let's hope times are a changing.
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I wonder what Elston means by "the clubs zero tolerance policy to unacceptable behaviour."
wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/wil ... n/2012/04/
To date my view on zero tolerance this season has been harsher than the one by the club and stewards so far. Let's hope times are a changing.
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