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| Now's the time to scrap the percentages and announce no relegation this season.
Cheating of one kind or another seems to be more prevalent in Rugby League as each season goes by. Even PT may agree with this.
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| Quote: Redscat "Now's the time to scrap the percentages and announce no relegation this season.
Cheating of one kind or another seems to be more prevalent in Rugby League as each season goes by. Even PT may agree with this.'"
Ken Davey said in an article the other day that The game was in a sorry state and no changes were to be made for next season, followed by a review the following season. If there is no relegation then the teams have a duty to fans and clubs and the game in general to get out on the field and play even if it’s fielding academy lads. This is getting completely out of and and stupid.
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| Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "Ken Davey said in an article the other day that The game was in a sorry state and no changes were to be made for next season, followed by a review the following season. If there is no relegation then the teams have a duty to fans and clubs and the game in general to get out on the field and play even if it’s fielding academy lads. This is getting completely out of and and stupid.'"
Though I’m not bothered if Leigh/Salford get relegated I find the % system crazy.
If Leigh were to go on a run any end up with say 4 wins from 20 (20%) and Salford were to only play 15 but win 3 then Leigh could potentially get relegated on points diff/scored despite having won more games.
Would that be the first time in any sport a team has won more than the team above yet end up relegated.
It’s unlikely yes but it is possible.
I have no idea why they just don’t go with points and points difference.
A team is penalised potentially for fulfilling their fixtures.
For example if us and Leeds end of season both win 10 games but we played 1 more than Leeds and have a better points diff we would end up missing playoff rugby because we fulfilled more fixtures... seems crackers to me.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Though I’m not bothered if Leigh/Salford get relegated I find the % system crazy.
If Leigh were to go on a run any end up with say 4 wins from 20 (20%) and Salford were to only play 15 but win 3 then Leigh could potentially get relegated on points diff/scored despite having won more games.
Would that be the first time in any sport a team has won more than the team above yet end up relegated.
It’s unlikely yes but it is possible.
I have no idea why they just don’t go with points and points difference.
A team is penalised potentially for fulfilling their fixtures.
For example if us and Leeds end of season both win 10 games but we played 1 more than Leeds and have a better points diff we would end up missing playoff rugby because we fulfilled more fixtures... seems crackers to me.'"
I was looking at the championship table, Fev have won 10 from 10, 100%. Tolouse have had 2 games called off so are 8 from 8 100% yet they are top and Fev are second because of a slightly better points difference, if its something similar come end of the season Tolouse will go up and if I was a Fev fan I would be far from happy.
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| Quote: homme vaste "I was looking at the championship table, Fev have won 10 from 10, 100%. Tolouse have had 2 games called off so are 8 from 8 100% yet they are top and Fev are second because of a slightly better points difference, if its something similar come end of the season Tolouse will go up and if I was a Fev fan I would be far from happy.'"
Wow thats shocking for a team with 2 more wins. Could you imagine winning 2 more games than a team yet them getting promoted ahead of you or even winning the LLS ahead of you just because they fulfilled less fixtures.
There would be absolute uproar.
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| Quote: vastman "I tend to agree but how do you prove it.
Cas must have slipped up somehow but Salford must have got the con trick right. Oh well.'"
Not really Cas's fault, they could have used academy players to fulfil the fixture but had 2 confirmed covid cases resulting in the rest of them having to isolate and making them unavailable, hence not been able to raise a team as academy players don't count on the 7 required.
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| Excuse and hiding behind the virus I'm afraid. Next time they will raise a team against us and have a good chance of winning what a load of guff. Leeds and Salford should have automatic 0-24 losses now.
Leeds didn't fancy Catalan or STS away wait till we have more players back.
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| Quote: happyjack "Not really Cas's fault, they could have used academy players to fulfil the fixture but had 2 confirmed covid cases resulting in the rest of them having to isolate and making them unavailable, hence not been able to raise a team as academy players don't count on the 7 required.'"
... but do unavailable first team players count? it could be that a large proportion of the Salford 7 were injured or suspended. How many were from the squad named to play? We'll never know.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Wow thats shocking for a team with 2 more wins. Could you imagine winning 2 more games than a team yet them getting promoted ahead of you or even winning the LLS ahead of you just because they fulfilled less fixtures.
There would be absolute uproar.'"
What about if you don't finish top because you couldn't play as many games as other teams?
That's not "fair" either.
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| Quote: coco the fullback "... but do unavailable first team players count? it could be that a large proportion of the Salford 7 were injured or suspended. How many were from the squad named to play? We'll never know.'"
Not sure how it works for first teamers, but academy players don't count and with Cas having to isolate the academy due to 2 cases, they were unable to call on them to make up the numbers for the game which caused the game to be forfeited and not postponed unlike Salford who played the system for their own benefit.
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| Quote: dboy "What about if you don't finish top because you couldn't play as many games as other teams?
That's not "fair" either.'"
It’s not but it’s fairer than having a team finishing top/above you with less wins imo.
It’s just a mess. Halfway through season and already some teams have played 4 less than others. That’s crazy.
Best plan would have been to reduce games this season to say 18-20 and allow a number of free weekends which would act as a Covid fixture weekend to capture re-arrangements. The teams would more or less that way all finish on the same number of games played without fixture cramming which had ruined the quality and seen a crazy injury list for this year.
They obviously couldn’t or didn’t due to the money implications so we are going to end up with a number of clubs fixture cramming and or not being able to fulfill all fixtures.
I don’t have the answer but there’s very little wiggle room been left and I’m sure it could have been handled better.
We will have to wait and see if there are any arguements over the % system come end of the year.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "It’s not but it’s fairer than having a team finishing top/above you with less wins imo.
It’s just a mess. Halfway through season and already some teams have played 4 less than others. That’s crazy.
Best plan would have been to reduce games this season to say 18-20 and allow a number of free weekends which would act as a Covid fixture weekend to capture re-arrangements. The teams would more or less that way all finish on the same number of games played without fixture cramming which had ruined the quality and seen a crazy injury list for this year.
They obviously couldn’t or didn’t due to the money implications so we are going to end up with a number of clubs fixture cramming and or not being able to fulfill all fixtures.
I don’t have the answer but there’s very little wiggle room been left and I’m sure it could have been handled better.
We will have to wait and see if there are any arguements over the % system come end of the year.'"
It's no less fair and no more fair.
The rules applied here are more about teams being unable to travel to France/isolate due to being PT.
I imagine the game(s) between the two will be quite something!
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| Does Saints 24-0 "victory" over Cas count as a win in the percentages,then?
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| Quote: Redscat "Does Saints 24-0 "victory" over Cas count as a win in the percentages,then?'"
Yes
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| Quote: Redscat "Does Saints 24-0 "victory" over Cas count as a win in the percentages,then?'"
Yes - Cas dropped a place in the league table because of it.
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