id love to see cockayne at fb he likes to roam around in the middle anyway and would still be good getting us going forward from fb imo plus coming into the line off the back of tim smith he would be deadly. i no hes good on the wing but this could really benefit the team if given a chance

I also think it would be worth trying Mathers at six and Ben at full back.
Mathers has many attributes a good six should have.
Think his creativity could take the pressure off T. Smith and L. Smith can continue at centre where he looks most comfortable .
Ben could be devastating coming into the line on attack . A bonus here as he could combine this with his already excellent kick return game.
On the wing Mellars,Lynne ,Cowling?
Less pressure for either Lynne or Cowling there.
Remember Toppo started out on the wing to gain first team experience.

Times have changed since Topper's day.
The wing is one of the most important in the team in defence now. Fielding kicks and kick return is vital. You can't justs tick someone there cos they are a bit fast.
If Cockayne moved we would lose out on the trade.
6 Wood, 5 BC, 1 Mathers
is better than
6 Mathers, 5 Cowling, 1 BC
in my opinion, even though you may improve one of the individual positions.

If we buy the next Pat Richards, I'm ok with the move
And for me, I'd rather develop Cowling as a centre rather than a utility back.

Yep, I realise times have changed Pop Tart.
I am older.
You also cannot stick someone in the centre at superleague level who is vastly inexperienced.
I feel centre is more difficult to play than wing, even today.
My opinion.
I am not advocating making Cowling into a utility .
See him on the wing for a while to gain experience.
Surely he can catch,tackle,run the ball back with enthusiasm,and at the same time learn by being on the field with the likes of Collis and L.Smith.

dont be so negative victor ,youv got to say positive things about our hero ,il take the flack and say mathers is a liabilityn where ever he plays ,if he proves me wrong il say so ,but i think im safe

Your not very posistive on any of our players are you try scorer?

Just been reading latest posts from all threads.. and all i've seen is you dissing our players.?

not far of the truth though am i , if people need praise theyl get it ,sorry cant praise mediocrese dont know the spelling , write what i feel dosent please everyone sorry

Have they still got Black sheep beer on in the Mopsey?

il talk about rugby which il put my knowlege up against anybody, beer i know nowt about

Nobody is suggesting that Mathers is a world-beater; plenty are suggesting however that given our finances and squad, he's the best we have available. Also, that he has some strengths in his game, which can't be denied by anyone who understands the sport.

Why does your argument have to be expressed in such extremes?

ive said what ive had to say about mathers as afullback im sorry hes frightened to death my opinion, folk think hed be good at stand off because of his ability to link up playing 6 your on the front line, hope he gets picked there youl see his weakness if you dont il hold my hands up

I wish there was a block/ignore facility on this site as I'm finding a certain posters views tedium ad nauseum

eyupfinancial just looked it up in sun ,sickening , disgusting comon mate speak english talk rugby ,oh sorry you know nowt about it

Maybe Mathers looks so bad to some people is because our line defence gets undone regularly. Nobody seems to comment on Sam Tomkins one on one tackling, as he rarely has to do one. This could be something to do with the players in front of him. Tomkins can then concentrate on his attacking play, what Eddie and Stevo fall overthemselves to talk about. Smith has been disappointing at fullback, but he showed at Widnes, even though he made some mistakes, still had the quality put that behind him and score two tries.