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| Quote: 1315trinity "My point really is perhaps Lino needs someone to take the pressure off him- I'm no coach and Lino frustrates me but he's never had a top stand off playing alongside him since he came to Wakefield!
Anyway who the alternative to Lino at SH?'"
Best I've seen us play this year, with respect to attack fluidity, was with Lawford and Jowitt in the halves. Best I saw us play last season was with Kay and Dagger in the halves. I wouldn't be overly disappointed if we saw a different combination of Jowitt, Lawford or Kay in there. Lino is a dangerous runner with the ball, he's got a great step, he is very committed and has strong defence. I agree he shouldn't be the main man as I don't think in his skill set.
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| Quote: Luppylad "Missed a great opportunity in first half on corner,other than that i never noticed him cant wait for jermaine to be back'"
Yes I agree, Franco is poor and Olipherts also has his issues. However there would be another alternative to covering till Geri gets back and that would be Liam Kaye. I am certain he could do a better job on the wing than Franco and Olipherts
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Best I've seen us play this year, with respect to attack fluidity, was with Lawford and Jowitt in the halves. Best I saw us play last season was with Kay and Dagger in the halves. I wouldn't be overly disappointed if we saw a different combination of Jowitt, Lawford or Kay in there. Lino is a dangerous runner with the ball, he's got a great step, he is very committed and has strong defence. I agree he shouldn't be the main man as I don't think in his skill set.'"
I am sure the club are aware of all this, however we have him for another two seasons and he is on a massive contract so we could be stuck with him for a while. However he is tough and strong defensively plus a good goal kicker, so I wonder if he could play hooker because it may suit him better
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| Toulouse didn't have 1 play the ball in our 20 in the first half, despite all the ball we coughed up, we still went in ahead with a worldie by Lachlan (excellent assist by Max again!)
Second half, even when they scored which was mostly off of our discipline, we just upped our game a notch and ran away with it.
Lino, I just can't figure out. Everything is so predictable.
Next week I suspect we will rotate a bit, with the semi the week after, which for me is far more important.
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| Quote: Prince Buster "I am sure the club are aware of all this, however we have him for another two seasons and he is on a massive contract so we could be stuck with him for a while. However he is tough and strong defensively plus a good goal kicker, so I wonder if he could play hooker because it may suit him better'"
Crossed my mind too.
May be worth a try
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| Quote: burtonsrlfc "Toulouse didn't have 1 play the ball in our 20 in the first half, despite all the ball we coughed up, we still went in ahead with a worldie by Lachlan (excellent assist by Max again!)
Second half, even when they scored which was mostly off of our discipline, we just upped our game a notch and ran away with it.
Lino, I just can't figure out. Everything is so predictable.
Next week I suspect we will rotate a bit, with the semi the week after, which for me is far more important.'"
Without the piggy back from our indiscipline, I dont think they would have scored.
Lino certainly seemed to be venting his anger over something but, it ultimately cost us a try.
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| Quote: 1315trinity "Crossed my mind too.
May be worth a try'"
Not for me.
He's a decent defensive half. That's a long way from being a decent defending hooker. He'd get mashed imho
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| I’m not a fan of Atoni starting. He’s seems to be far more effective in his second spell. For me he’s much more of an impact style forward.
I’d like to see Rodwell start (who is quality in my opinion) as he’s capable of big minutes and goes about his work throughout his spells very efficiently. He’s more suited to the initial arm wrestle/feeling out period than Atoni is for me.
A fresh Atoni vs a slightly fatigued defence is best use of his attributes in my opinion.
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| Quote: burtonsrlfc "Toulouse didn't have 1 play the ball in our 20 in the first half, despite all the ball we coughed up, we still went in ahead with a worldie by Lachlan (excellent assist by Max again!)
Second half, even when they scored which was mostly off of our discipline, we just upped our game a notch and ran away with it.
Lino, I just can't figure out. Everything is so predictable.
Next week I suspect we will rotate a bit, with the semi the week after, which for me is far more important.'"
Our defence was top notch in that first 30mins .Toulouse never looked like scoring until we gave them a penalty. I think it says something about your defence when the opposition get a penalty and are in your 30 for the first time and they opt to take two…
I thought Toulouse had a bit of success in the first half unraveling that runaround move we do with Max Jowitt .some of it was our errors but coaches and opposition teams are going to pick up on this as the season progresses and we’re going to need other options and moves to keep them guessing..
We also have great success using the route one approach.when we pick up our tempo teams just can’t live with it resulting in tries like the one Atoni scored..
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| Quote: 1315trinity "My point really is perhaps Lino needs someone to take the pressure off him- I'm no coach and Lino frustrates me but he's never had a top stand off playing alongside him since he came to Wakefield!
Anyway who the alternative to Lino at SH?'"
Lino puts pressure on himself. He’s constantly looking for the magic pass or incredible step. I’m not against this, but there is a time and place. We’d beaten them when Lino put out that silly short ball. Luckily the cover got there, but if he’d been a quicker player they would have scored and been back in the game with ten to go. You don’t throw passes like that when the rest do the team just want to run the clock down. DId the same at Fev.
Somebody should give him the mantra, ‘a time and a place’.
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| Quote: jonh "I’m not a fan of Atoni starting. He’s seems to be far more effective in his second spell. For me he’s much more of an impact style forward.
I’d like to see Rodwell start (who is quality in my opinion) as he’s capable of big minutes and goes about his work throughout his spells very efficiently. He’s more suited to the initial arm wrestle/feeling out period than Atoni is for me.
A fresh Atoni vs a slightly fatigued defence is best use of his attributes in my opinion.'"
Did you see that Thaler nearly got levelled by Atoni in the act of scoring his try ??
He had to get a real shift on to get out of the way and was laughing his head off immediately afterwards
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| Quote: FIL "Did you see that Thaler nearly got levelled by Atoni in the act of scoring his try ??
He had to get a real shift on to get out of the way and was laughing his head off immediately afterwards
Coming down on top of Thaler would've been a softer landing. There's plenty of padding there these days
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| Quote: vastman "Lino puts pressure on himself. He’s constantly looking for the magic pass or incredible step. I’m not against t
his, but there is a time and place. We’d beaten them when Lino put out that silly short ball. Luckily the cover got there, but if he’d been a quicker player they would have scored and been back in the game with ten to go. You don’t throw passes like that when the rest do the team just want to run the clock down. DId the same at Fev.
Somebody should give him the mantra, ‘a time and a place’.'"
I don't disagree with any of that and as I'm not a coach I'll sit back and see what happens.
One for sure we need better service from both half backs in my opinion.
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