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Quote: 1315trinity "Pretty much sums a lot of the problem up - let's face it they haven't been up for the fight most of the season.
I too think our time in SL is now up - I honestly cannot see a way out of this, but like you say if it takes a drop down to have a sort out then it may not be a bad thing.
When/If we return I would like to think it would be on a better financial footing because for the majority of years we've been in SL we have struggled and it really does get a bit depressing constantly witnessing it!'"

For a start 1315 no long term contracts on has beens , build a team around our youngsters if possible, will be hard but I think if these two divisions take shape after next season we’d be in the second tier anyway , so we might as well start building from the ground up , because there is nothing more deflating for a fan to put the effort in to turn up at away games or home games for that matter and the team doesn’t perform, it’s not the defeats for me but the manner of the defeats that really bite hard

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Quote: Kettykat "For a start 1315 no long term contracts on has beens , build a team around our youngsters if possible, will be hard but I think if these two divisions take shape after next season we’d be in the second tier anyway , so we might as well start building from the ground up , because there is nothing more deflating for a fan to put the effort in to turn up at away games or home games for that matter and the team doesn’t perform, it’s not the defeats for me but the manner of the defeats that really bite hard'"


With our utter inability to complete sets, we cant and wont win another game.
I'm sure that someone will have the stats for yesterday but, for all our errors and bad calls from the ref (there weren't many yesterday), its our inability to get to and execute a last tackle play that stuffed us.
There is a total lack of intensity and we're supposed to be fighting for our SL future.
Maybe some of the senior players, already have club for next season and so they're not bothered enough but, they bloody well should be.

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Quote: PopTart "I agree.
There was lots of effort and we dominated for long stretches, only just just throw the ball away.

It is all about execution. We got into good positions with clear space in front, only for Miller to send the ball sailing in to touch......3 times.
We gave the ball over when we didn't put the ball in the scrum before the clock ran out. I don't think I've seen any other club do that.
Just not good enough.'"

Dont like to pin point individuals out it is a team game after all but miller wouldnt play another game for me let him go to cas now

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Quote: PopTart "I agree.
There was lots of effort and we dominated for long stretches, only just just throw the ball away.

It is all about execution. We got into good positions with clear space in front, only for Miller to send the ball sailing in to touch......3 times.
We gave the ball over when we didn't put the ball in the scrum before the clock ran out. I don't think I've seen any other club do that.
Just not good enough.'"

Did not go ,but if that is right about the penalties from the scrum it sounds like some of them could not be arsd My good mate who went said the same about Miller and Liino ,but the forwards gave 100%

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Quote: Kettykat "For a start 1315 no long term contracts on has beens , build a team around our youngsters if possible, will be hard but I think if these two divisions take shape after next season we’d be in the second tier anyway , so we might as well start building from the ground up , because there is nothing more deflating for a fan to put the effort in to turn up at away games or home games for that matter and the team doesn’t perform, it’s not the defeats for me but the manner of the defeats that really bite hard'"


I agree. Also if the two divisions are structured properly the second division could be almost as competitive as SL1, so agree - a season to get ready for it.

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Quote: PopTart "Don't worry, I don't feel bullied.
Patronised maybe.

You mix up denial with fact checking.
I've clearly said when I see things that are wrong, however I don't like the pile on from the posters who only post when things are going wrong.....and just make things up in hindsight just to look like they know something. They clearly don't.
Or just ignore the fact that no one has credible alternatives but blames the club for their decisions.

No one goes out there to lose a game. All this slagging off players, and coach and board is sometimes by people who are upset and sometimes by people who don't care about the club and just enjoy putting people down. And I hate that.'"

how can you give credible alternatives when the deals are done the club aren't going to ask the fans who to bring are they,
many on here have voiced their opinions and have been proven right which you don't like, as much as you hate them coming here on defeats I don't like the constant burrowing the head in the ground attitude as if everything is going to ok

some of these should not put another shirt on for any club

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Quote: snowie "how can you give credible alternatives when the deals are done the club aren't going to ask the fans who to bring are they,
many on here have voiced their opinions and have been proven right which you don't like, as much as you hate them coming here on defeats I don't like the constant burrowing the head in the ground attitude as if everything is going to ok

some of these should not put another shirt on for any club'"


What have you been proved right about?

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Quote: PopTart "What have you been proved right about?'"

Possibly that all of our new additions this year apart from hall are not SL standard and are one of the reasons we find ourselves where we are. A lot of people have said from the start of the season the recruitment has been very poor. Results have proven that sadly alongside. 2022 has been the worst recruitment I’ve seen in my time watching, no coincidence we are going down this year. Not saying this with joy, I’m genuinely gutted it’s got to this.

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Quote: PopTart "What have you been proved right about?'"

over the hill signings now stick your head in the ground icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Pat Bateman "Possibly that all of our new additions this year apart from hall are not SL standard and are one of the reasons we find ourselves where we are. A lot of people have said from the start of the season the recruitment has been very poor. Results have proven that sadly alongside. 2022 has been the worst recruitment I’ve seen in my time watching, no coincidence we are going down this year. Not saying this with joy, I’m genuinely gutted it’s got to this.'"


Not Whitbread? I think he's been a success.

It's easy to call it out after they've played. Fair enough no one was impressed with Gaskell but Lineham had some logic. Just turned out to be an unsuccessful signing.
It's not like they went out to get rubbish. They made a decision. Some good some not.
It doesn't mean every decision was bad.

Even Lino isn't looking great at the moment but he is hardly a bad signing. He's been great and is sought after.

I've never disagreed when you pick people out that had a poor game. Only that not everyone had a poor game, and that many are putting a lot of effort in for no reward.

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Drop Lino and Miller, move them out now to their new clubs. Two quota places freed up if the clubs have space, unlikely, or just drop them from the squad. Miller a headless chicken, Lino bone idle.
Walker and Jowitt can surely be no worse.

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I agree we have to do something to give us some chance of avoiding the drop.

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Quote: Manuel "Drop Lino and Miller, move them out now to their new clubs. Two quota places freed up if the clubs have space, unlikely, or just drop them from the squad. Miller a headless chicken, Lino bone idle.
Walker and Jowitt can surely be no worse.'"


Didn’t know Lino had a new club. Thought he was contracted to trinity next season as it stands.

I’ve always had my reservations about Miller. He will bleed RWB I don’t doubt but he doesn’t create enough and his running game has become somewhat less effective as years go by. I would t say he’s developed over the many years he’s been here.

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Quote: PopTart "Not Whitbread? I think he's been a success.

It's easy to call it out after they've played. Fair enough no one was impressed with Gaskell but Lineham had some logic. Just turned out to be an unsuccessful signing.
It's not like they went out to get rubbish. They made a decision. Some good some not.
It doesn't mean every decision was bad.

Even Lino isn't looking great at the moment but he is hardly a bad signing. He's been great and is sought after.

I've never disagreed when you pick people out that had a poor game. Only that not everyone had a poor game, and that many are putting a lot of effort in for no reward.'"

Tbf I forgot about Whitbread icon_surprised.gifops: who I think has been decent. The likes of Lineham, Gaskell, Hood and Butler have been bang average, again I did say they were part of the reason not just solely rested on them as slot of our current squad have been poor too.

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Quote: Manuel "Drop Lino and Miller, move them out now to their new clubs. Two quota places freed up if the clubs have space, unlikely, or just drop them from the squad. Miller a headless chicken, Lino bone idle.
Walker and Jowitt can surely be no worse.'"

100% agree said this in an earlier post. If miller is going play walker. He's are captain, one of our most experienced senior players, yet dosen't seem to be putting in a captains knock just going through the motions. The teams flat and unfotunately for us its the senior high earning players who are not performing.

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