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| Quote: Luppylad "So its ok to drop one player for been poor but not another.if the only impact a player as on a game is for his own team to concede does he deserve to keep his place was he any better or worse than player dropped.its not about 1 mistake as you point out its about the whole game.for what its worth i dont know or care if kelepi is dropped or not its good to have a coach who is prepared to make these decisions rather than have faves as long as it applies to all players all season injuries permitted'"
You're making a huge assumption here. You are assuming that WP thinks TL's form is poor but matey that's just your opinion and WP clearly sees it differently. I'll say again you don't drop a player on one mistake. The reasons KT has been dropped are possibly way more complex for reasons eluded to already. You are trying to second guess the coaching team which is a mistake IMO. I know you have connections with the club but you're not that far up the information food chain just yet, one day maybe .
People should just let it go IMO, WP has made his decision and after a start of the season narrow defeat, and a good end to last season, questioning it is way way too premature at this point IMHO.
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| Quote: musson "I would be stunned at your own hypocrisy however every other post of yours is aggressively disagreeing with people, so I’m not surprised to see you chip in here to try and rescue your cyber bird poptart at all
It’s probably the closest you’ll get to one
This forum is all you have in your life
I feel genuinely sorry for you'"
Yeah yeah yeah and honestly I'm truly grateful for your concern, but I'm not the one who came out bagging someone for doing it, you are. Then true to form when challenged you immediately revert to throwing personal insults. Sadly you just don't see your own flaws and I don't suppose you ever will.
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| Quote: musson "Neither of us know, that’s my point
He’s being dropped and that could mean anything
Why does it matter so much to you by the way?
Feels like that your trying to convince / force people to take your views act the facts
Yes he’s being dropped
Confidence or not vaxed
How can you prove love you are correct?
You can’t'"
Are you following this thread. That is what I said to you and you said I was blinded.
The difference between out opinions is Willie Poaching said what I said. You have created your opinion from a strange belief that he's telling lies and hearsay about vax status of the team.
As I have said twice now. I don't care.
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| Quote: vastman "You're making a huge assumption here. You are assuming that WP thinks TL's form is poor but matey that's just your opinion and WP clearly sees it differently. I'll say again you don't drop a player on one mistake. The reasons KT has been dropped are possibly way more complex for reasons eluded to already. You are trying to second guess the coaching team which is a mistake IMO. I know you have connections with the club but you're not that far up the information food chain just yet, one day maybe
Thats the thing im not making any assumption i actually dont care weather KT is dropped or not playing for any other reason i actually likeus having a coach prepared to do things like this.and i also dont feel the club should inform fans why either.but i am entitled to an opinion and if kt is dropped i hope others get the same and yes tl was poor in my opinion.as for info food chain as you put it i dont pretend or want to be in any kind of chain i certainly dont pretend to know things only things i postvis how the lads been goingin college league which is cos i go and yes i knew mimms was due to play tonight.
All i really care about right now is come september we are not sitting 12th cos i believe once the stadium is moving and with the young talent we do have coming through the club will only get stronger
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| Quote: jonh "If Kershaw is fit I’d have him start vs Catalans at the expense of Lineham definitely.
Been very unimpressed with Lineham so far.
The defensive effort for the Gale try was appalling and totally unacceptable.
If anyone was going to the reserves game tonight it has been cancelled FYI.'"
I'm fairly sure that the last we heard on Kershaw was that it was likely to be June/July before he would be fit to play again ??
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| Quote: jonh "If Kershaw is fit I’d have him start vs Catalans at the expense of Lineham definitely.
Been very unimpressed with Lineham so far.
The defensive effort for the Gale try was appalling and totally unacceptable.
If anyone was going to the reserves game tonight it has been cancelled FYI.'"
A little bit cruel... we’ve watched TJ, Topou (sic) and Reece fi this to opposition players and squeal with delight ... it’s two sides of the same coin... I thought the Hull player’s footwork and speed were top notch, that said there was the opportunity to close it down.
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| Quote: vastman "Yeah yeah yeah and honestly I'm truly grateful for your concern, but I'm not the one who came out bagging someone for doing it, you are. Then true to form when challenged you immediately revert to throwing personal insults. Sadly you just don't see your own flaws and I don't suppose you ever will.'"
Hilarious
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| Quote: PopTart "Are you following this thread. That is what I said to you and you said I was blinded.
The difference between out opinions is Willie Poaching said what I said. You have created your opinion from a strange belief that he's telling lies and hearsay about vax status of the team.
As I have said twice now. I don't care.'"
When did I say poaching has lied (correct I haven’t)
Seriously you and vastcap make it up as you go along
Yep clearly you don’t care
You care enough to write me comedy essays
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| Let’s look at a few actual facts on this
WP publicly stated that 6 players had not been vaccinated , tanginoa fifita miller minns have all mysteriously been injured in training dropped or just not been picked.
Now I am only speculating but it’s one heck of a coincidence that we have 5 players that you would have expected to play aren’t
Does it follow that it’s easier to drop minns and Kip to reserves and give miller and fifita week off due to minor injuries than to break any confidentiality - aspect it does
So guess Kt what by feature against saints as he needs a confidence building run out in reserves -
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Is Kershaw still a Trinity player ?'"
Where have you lot been regarding kershaw one saying he'd play him against catalan gunna be very difficult with an ACL injury some asking if he still plays for us he signed a new contract end of last season and to the one who said he would have kept senior instead are you for real kershaw was excellent last season for us wish he was fit he's great at running the ball back and so hard to tackle very strong runner
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| Quote: Trinity11 "Where have you lot been regarding kershaw one saying he'd play him against catalan gunna be very difficult with an ACL injury some asking if he still plays for us he signed a new contract end of last season and to the one who said he would have kept senior instead are you for real
He certainly improved towards the end of the season. Bombed a few tries and some silly offloads early on, but got better throughout the year.
He would be in the starting 13 for me if it wasn't for that awful injury.
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| From my armchair coaching position the old saying (get back on the horse) is in my opinion very relevant to kelepi ,if he lost his mojo .It’s quite obvious what’s going on without stating the obvious , and I’m sure I’ll be seeing him running out against saints next Fri ,along with the COVID six all returning . I fully understand willie’s take on the circumstances that he has found himself in ,and until France’s status changes it will be something most, if not all clubs will be going through this season . Going to be a lot of first team players losing their mojo’s and running out in the reserves if our team is anything to go by ,and the poor old book of excuses is going to be exhausted by the end .
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| Quote: Kirmudgeonlyisback "Let’s look at a few actual facts on this
WP publicly stated that 6 players had not been vaccinated , tanginoa fifita miller minns have all mysteriously been injured in training dropped or just not been picked.
Now I am only speculating but it’s one heck of a coincidence that we have 5 players that you would have expected to play aren’t
Does it follow that it’s easier to drop minns and Kip to reserves and give miller and fifita week off due to minor injuries than to break any confidentiality - aspect it does
So guess Kt what by feature against saints as he needs a confidence building run out in reserves -'"
Not many facts to look at really, only speculation.
I don't read/listen to the coach's interviews so I may be wrong here, apologies in advance if I am but Wasn't it Mr Carter that publicly stated we have 6 unvaccinated players and not Poching, if you believe that the coach is covering up for those players does it hurt to just accept you know different and let it be put to bed, that way there's no recriminations all round, no point causing embarrassment and resentment just so some fans who want to prove a point can say I knew it, maybe try putting yourself in the coach's position.
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| They're either injured, dropped or unvaccinated, ultimately, for whatever reason they're unavailable. Does it really matter why?
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "They're either injured, dropped or unvaccinated, ultimately, for whatever reason they're unavailable. Does it really matter why?'"
To be fair though, if you've been 'dropped' then you are available to be selected, but obviously that's up to the coach isn't it. That is of course if Tanginoa isn't one of the six, then he's unavailable, then he can't be picked can he?! But we don't know for sure, hence the speculation on here, which could have been cleared up by the powers that be, but they haven't named the 6, so it makes for debate on here doesn't it?!?!
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