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Quote: jonh "I shared it with all the lads I coach as I believe it is a great lesson be it for sport or life in general.

It also is a mantra the lad lived by which gives it more gravitas and what got him to where he was, eventually captaining England on a few occasions.

I thankfully don’t coach my youngest and he is in good hands with his coaches however he is putting a bit too much pressure on himself to get scholarship.

He however has asked to do weights or field work everyday since reading it.

The size issue is always a funny one. I’m not for sizing them up as I think some of the players thrive on taking on the bigger lads as juniors but others as you rightfully say don’t. It’s a really difficult one though and in an ideal world junior rugby would be more focussed on developing all players than winning, but the reality is, and I’ve been guilty of it too sometimes the focus is on winning at some players expense/lack of opportunity and I’ve always felt fairly disappointed in myself when that has happened regardless of the win.

I still firmly believe all levels below SL should be about developing players/and good citizens not winning including Academy but it is easier said than done sometimes in the thick of it.'"


Thats where wakefield excell in for me there not intrested of whst league your in or how many trophies you won itd about how they can develop you as both player and a person bith on and off the pitch and games they want to win but it mord about what can be learnt and taking from the game rather than the result.

Its good ya young wanting to work hard in achieving what he wants but guess like all kids he needs to be out there playing hopefully it will happen soon.

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Quote: homme vaste "On the flip side of the coin I think sometimes fans expect too much of young players too soon there aren't that many Sam Tomkins around that can come in an instantly make an impact like he did.

Some home-grown players stick at there clubs as a squad player because it suits them and the club and they seem to go under the radar for even years until they start to make a real impact. Nathan Massey at Cas is a really good example of that, if he had left, I imagine he would have fizzled out, maybe play in the championship or even not be playing at all, and we would just put him in the same bracket as a lot of the names that crop up on this thread. As it plays out although not absolutely standout, Massey has turned out to be a good SL player and a key part of the Cas team. You can`t invest that sort of time in every young lad that has a bit of potential but if you did I think the majority of the time you would see a good SL standard player a few years down the line.'"



That’s a good point.

There is also a lure of more money to drop down sometimes.

Players can be on a low wage in a full time environment or be senior player at a younger age picking up a higher payment to play part time and also fit a job in around it.

So many factors to it as highlighted in this thread, which is why I have so much admiration for anyone that makes it to the highest levels of our sport.

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Quote: Luppylad "Thats where wakefield excell in for me there not intrested of whst league your in or how many trophies you won itd about how they can develop you as both player and a person bith on and off the pitch and games they want to win but it mord about what can be learnt and taking from the game rather than the result.

Its good ya young wanting to work hard in achieving what he wants but guess like all kids he needs to be out there playing hopefully it will happen soon.'"



He is just moving into the 14s this year and after a year out who knows how he and the others will respond.

I do worry about my age group (16s) and the 15s more though.

I feel some cracking players who didn’t get scholarship may be lost to the pro game as they have developed so much physically in the time they have missed but may not get the opportunity to show it at an important time of their rugby pathway.

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Quote: jonh "He is just moving into the 14s this year and after a year out who knows how he and the others will respond.

I do worry about my age group (16s) and the 15s more though.

I feel some cracking players who didn’t get scholarship may be lost to the pro game as they have developed so much physically in the time they have missed but may not get the opportunity to show it at an important time of their rugby pathway.'"


Deffo regarding 16s think there will be a few not returning i do worry weather my lad team end up with enough lads as numbers are dwindling i know or rather been told kippax whst would now be 16s folded.i do think the players who believe and want to go further themselves will return and they still slwsys have chance collage rugby can also help there few top plsyers out there who didnt get scholr like johnstone so there alwsyd hope

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Quote: Luppylad "Deffo regarding 16s think there will be a few not returning i do worry weather my lad team end up with enough lads as numbers are dwindling i know or rather been told kippax whst would now be 16s folded.i do think the players who believe and want to go further themselves will return and they still slwsys have chance collage rugby can also help there few top plsyers out there who didnt get scholr like johnstone so there alwsyd hope'"


Kippax have gone and Oulton were on the verge however most of the lads that wanted to keep playing from Kippax joined them so at least they were not lost to the game.

Some cracking players in that 16s age group that didn’t get scholarship but probably would have been picked up last year had we had a league.

I’ve got 2 lads in my 16s who I’m sure would have pushing to get noticed last year. Both are still with me and both have trained like mad throughout however I worry what effect not playing will have had on them.

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Quote: jonh "Kippax have gone and Oulton were on the verge however most of the lads that wanted to keep playing from Kippax joined them so at least they were not lost to the game.

Some cracking players in that 16s age group that didn’t get scholarship but probably would have been picked up last year had we had a league.

I’ve got 2 lads in my 16s who I’m sure would have pushing to get noticed last year. Both are still with me and both have trained like mad throughout however I worry what effect not playing will have had on them.'"


Yeah seen you play agsinst us guessing you mean brother of a current first teamer and the newish lad you got when 14s

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Quote: Luppylad "Yeah seen you play agsinst us guessing you mean brother of a current first teamer and the newish lad you got when 14s'"



I wasn’t to be honest as he is already on their radar.

Yes on the other one. Brand new to it and just a natural athlete Cas were all over him pre pandemic couldn’t believe he was brand new to the game (previously signed at Bradford City) and he has filled out over the last year without losing his pace/athleticism.

He needs games though, touch wood we are back in April.

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Quote: jonh "I wasn’t to be honest as he is already on their radar.

Yes on the other one. Brand new to it and just a natural athlete Cas were all over him pre pandemic couldn’t believe he was brand new to the game (previously signed at Bradford City) and he has filled out over the last year without losing his pace/athleticism.

He needs games though, touch wood we are back in April.'"

Hopefully its much needed

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