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| Quote: dboy "The gantry can't be lowered - it's already "flat", and permission couldn't be achieved for a roof of a height that would go above the gantry.
A roof at the permissible height would obscure the gantry sight lines.
This was covered in a fan's forum at BV, in the none too distant past.
It's not a myth; it's physics and planning permissions.'"
I remember and your right. We differ only in that you believe it and I don’t.
The myth I refer to was SKY saying no, they didn’t.
The roof at permissible height is incorrect imo. To me that the club was making excuses. Roughly speaking the height of the old west stand sets a historical precedent and that I know to be true.
Problem is the roofing used is technically temporary and that’s where the restriction is, the next size up so to speak was too pricy. Also the bit they did build is just as much in site lines as it would be full length, never really got that argument.
To be honest I don’t blame the club it was never vital, at the time it was just a fop. The roof has served its purpose. What I would be interested in is knowing the lifespan of these roofs, that I don’t know?
Anyway these are side issues, it’s just fair to say the west terrace is the most limited section of the ground.
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| Quote: Wakefield City "Didn’t realise it went to planning and WMDC rejected them, should be in the public domain if that’s the case. Remember early 2000s talk of us buying the old wilderspoon main stand for the west side. Had to go through an alley underneath some terrace houses away end at Luton, no chance of getting emergency vehicles through there.
Up the Trin'"
Never needed to go to public, these were feasibility studies, all rejected in advance so no point.
As for Luton you’re spot on and there are others but you’re missing the point.
These are stands that were built pre-regulations and thus have less strict criteria. The problem comes when you replace them. When you do that to have to meet modern standards, you can’t replace like for like. That’s one of the reasons Luton’s ground has barely been developed, that is a ground in a truly awfull position.
Sure you’ve been to York? Without wanting to patronise but do you think you’d be allowed to build the Shambles under modern planning? That’s the problem.
The only real solution would be if the council would close the path and we could buy the land and perhaps some of the adjoining garden land. However we are in ransom strip territory there, nightmare.
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "Thought I'd start this so folk can add any updates they come across so as to keep folk as well informed as possible, pin it maybe mods?
I'll kick off with this I found on the net, it's the architect's own site and gives a few more pics and bits of info, not much but a bit. Enjoy
Just got around to reading the information by the architect from the link above.
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Phase 1
The new East Stand will become an impactful focal point, with a FanZone and landscaped car parking creating a sense of arrival for travelling fans. An improved concourse will wrap around the eastern side of the new stand, facilitating safe and fully accessible movement for all visitors.
In addition to the East Stand, the plans also outline further works to increase the stadium capacity from 7,258 to a total of 8,866. The North Stand, which is currently subject to health and safety restrictions, will be refurbished to increase capacity from a restricted 1,500 capacity up to 3,500 capacity. Existing floodlights will be upgraded to the latest LED technology and a 4G pitch installed for all weather use by both club and the community.
Phase 2
Bringing together both club and the Wakefield Trinity Community Trust, phase two of the plans will see the refurbishment of the Rollin Shack. This will provide improved, multi-functional facilities to better engage with local residents. The proposals outline several provisions including a health and fitness suite, a strength and conditioning gym, a studio, learning spaces, meeting rooms, function lounge, club retails, café and changing facilities.
These plans set out a broader vision for the stadium and its place within the Belle Vue community, bringing substantial social, environmental and economic benefits. With these new facilities, the Trust will meet its aims to assist in the regeneration of the area through engagement activities and the promotion of social inclusion.
I can’t decide if this company will only be involved in phase 1 and 2, and not the complete stadium. Is it possible, that we only have funding for phase 1&2, therefore nothing drawn up for West and South side.
I think the details are a bit sketchy at the moment. JM said on Monday night, this a 12+ month build. Is that just for phase 1 or both 1&2?
Is it likely, that 1&2 together will take 2 years, meaning it will be 2024 at the earliest, before West and South ends can be considered for redevelopment?
In the previous Q&A, JM said things had to be scaled back, due to funding.
Perhaps I’m just a born pessimist, best news we’ve had for ages re Stadium, and I’m probably overthinking.
Anyone else think we need some more details, just for clarification?
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| This is such amazing news
The best news I’ve had all year in fact
I’m not sure we’ve ever got to the point where we’ve submitted plans before
I’ve seen artist impressions , maybe 3 lots now?
I’d like to go early and say the stand need naming after MC
I’m not sure I’m ready to believe it just yet
Is this really going to happen for us
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| Quote: musson "
I’d like to go early and say the stand need naming after MC
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That would certainly feed the resident haters on the two rugby forums.
I suppose the sensible options would be a sponsorship naming or Neil Fox?
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| The "Neil Fox Stand" sounds good to me and probably a lot of others too, I would suspect ??
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| Quote: FIL "The "Neil Fox Stand" sounds good to me and probably a lot of others too, I would suspect ??'"
I imagine it will be called after a sponsor, but that could be its actual name, no issue from me.
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| Quote: musson "This is such amazing news
The best news I’ve had all year in fact
I’m not sure we’ve ever got to the point where we’ve submitted plans before
I’ve seen artist impressions , maybe 3 lots now?
I’d like to go early and say the stand need naming after MC
I’m not sure I’m ready to believe it just yet
Is this really going to happen for us
Sorry, but I can think of several legendary names associated with our club who would or should be further up the list on any stand naming. After all, it wasn’t that long ago he was willing to sell the club for £1
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| Quote: musson " I’d like to go early and say the stand need naming after MC '"
Quote: musson " That would certainly feed the resident haters on the two rugby forums.'"
Quote: musson "Sorry, but I can think of several legendary names associated with our club who would or should be further up the list on any stand naming. After all, it wasn’t that long ago he was willing to sell the club for £1'"
see what I mean?
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Sorry, but I can think of several legendary names associated with our club who would or should be further up the list on any stand naming. After all, it wasn’t that long ago he was willing to sell the club for £1'"
I reckon he’d still sell for a quid. He’s turned around the debacle of Glover and the last regime who somehow managed to plunge the club into the worst financial position ever!
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Sorry, but I can think of several legendary names associated with our club who would or should be further up the list on any stand naming. After all, it wasn’t that long ago he was willing to sell the club for £1'"
He comes over a bit dry at times and straight talking. Maybe it was a tongue in cheek, throw away comment.
I get what you say about other names though, maybe a suite named after him
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "see what I mean?
Dearly me much as I loath the instigator of the MC idea I suspect it was mostly tongue in cheek. I suggest Eastern you’ve been had.
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| Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "see what I mean?
Trust me, I don’t hate anyone. Not even my ex who fraudulently tried to steal my identity, or the person who assaulted me 20 years ago outside The Queen pub in Outwood. Life’s too short.
Let’s just say I haven’t always agreed with him on certain things. We are all entitled to our viewpoints.
Back to the names
Neil Fox
Derek Turner
Dave Topliss
Harold Poynton
Jonty Parkin
All club legends, and there will be a few more probably if I thought long and hard
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Trust me, I don’t hate anyone. Not even my ex who fraudulently tried to steal my identity, or the person who assaulted me 20 years ago outside The Queen pub in Outwood. Life’s too short.
Let’s just say I haven’t always agreed with him on certain things. We are all entitled to our viewpoints.
Back to the names
Neil Fox
Derek Turner
Dave Topliss
Harold Poynton
Jonty Parkin
All club legends, and there will be a few more probably if I thought long and hard'"
They are indeed all club legends but, from that list, for me, there is a clear "winner" - has to be Neil Fox !
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Sorry, but I can think of several legendary names associated with our club who would or should be further up the list on any stand naming. After all, it wasn’t that long ago he was willing to sell the club for £1'"
I completely respect all the legends we’ve had play for us over the years
But they aren’t the reason the stand is getting built
None of this would be happening without MC and the stability and sound business sense he’s brought to the club
It’s not happened yet so it’s not something I’d consider arguing over
It’s just my view point
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