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Quote: newgroundb4cas "We have the best pitch in the league why replace this?
Not happy with this one at all'"

Although I’m disappointed the natural grass has to be removed, I fully understand why the 4G replacement is required. The Stadium will have an all year round, multi sport use, the only downside at the moment is pitch markings for different sports. Now is not the time for nit picking, we have waited long enough,

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Perhaps the club can cut up the pitch and sell off the pieces. Then NGB4C can buy them all and it’s a win/win situation.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "We have the best pitch in the league why replace this?
Not happy with this one at all'"


So you'd rather watch RL in the championship but on a reasonable grass pitch or watch SL in a modern stadium on a state of the art 4G pitch. We will get kicked out if this doesn't work, you do realise that?

When that happens because you preferred grass I dread to think how 'Not happy with this one at all' you will be then.

Your logic is stunning. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Fishermanscap "So you'd rather watch RL in the championship but on a reasonable grass pitch or watch SL in a modern stadium on a state of the art 4G pitch. We will get kicked out if this doesn't work, you do realise that?

When that happens because you preferred grass I dread to think how 'Not happy with this one at all' you will be then.

Your logic is stunning.
Indeed, I think some people forget that a RL club is a business, we don`t have backers with and endless pit of money as some other clubs do, we need to be smart and ensure that Wakefield Trinity is sustainable moving forward and MC and JM are doing a good job in doing just that. Not only does it cut costs in terms of not paying to train somewhere else year round, we get an income for pitch hire (Albeit small) without having our pitch ruined and another cost saving is the maintenance, read somewhere on average it takes around 10-15k a year to maintain a pro playing surface, obviously there is an up font cost with the 4g pitch but financially we will be much better off in the long run.

Maybe after hearing NGBC`s concern they might just scrap all that though, maybe even revoke the deal they have signed with Lino.

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Quote: Willzay "Perhaps the club can cut up the pitch and sell off the pieces. Then NGB4C can buy them all and it’s a win/win situation.'"

By the time he's done huffing and puffing wollo wollo will have bought the whole lot for his window boxes.

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We had paid out money to train at Featherstone so not to cut up the pitch, this way we can train on home turf and rent it out when it's not needed.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "We have the best pitch in the league why replace this?
Not happy with this one at all'"


I'm not sure that this is true.

It's pretty good but, there are plenty of very good playing surfaces now.
Although traditionally, RL would be played on a pitch with plenty of grass and not the "smooth" carpet like surfaces that the round ball game is played on.
Places like Shudds, KC Warrington, Saints, Wigan and even Headingley are top pitches, better than ours I would say.

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Disagree with you there Wrencat. Our pitch is one of the top in the league IMO. Hudds, Hull and Wigan are all football pitches.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I'm not sure that this is true.

It's pretty good but, there are plenty of very good playing surfaces now.
Although traditionally, RL would be played on a pitch with plenty of grass and not the "smooth" carpet like surfaces that the round ball game is played on.
Places like Shudds, KC Warrington, Saints, Wigan and even Headingley are top pitches, better than ours I would say.'"


The BV pitch is one of the best traditional pitches no doubt, but that's all it is. In the old days, it was especially liked because it was wide and fairly flat. These days that is hardly exceptional. Truth is it's not perfectly flat, you can clearly see it slopes slightly away from the middle, I assume this is one of the reasons it always drained fairly well.

However, this new stadium is for community use and to all but the most myopic the current pitch would never stand up to all-year-round use from just two teams (Football and Rugby), the addition of a third team and some community use would destroy it.

I suspect when they say 'community use" I suspect they mean for amateur finals and special event matches rather than Bill Bloggs and his mates hiring it for an evening of hacking about.

My guess is that on average it will be used perhaps on average 2 hours per day by the community, more in summer than winter.

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Quote: Willzay "Disagree with you there Wrencat. Our pitch is one of the top in the league IMO. Hudds, Hull and Wigan are all football pitches.'"


Nah, a pitch is a pitch. There was a time when Rugby pitches had longer grass but they are all trimmed to a few millimetres these days. There is no difference IMHO. BV is a brilliant natural pitch but is no match for say Hudds or Saints pitch, which is laser flat and I believe partly synthetic. Not sure about Wigan though I suspect it is not totally natural. Headingly maybe, I'm not sure but then Leeds have an excellent training facility.

I think Grass pitches have had their day at this level. It's the harsh cost of living for all sports.

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Quote: Kettykat "Kettlethorpe high school make a small fortune renting out their 3G/4G pitch to all and sundry all year round ,so for me it’s a no brainier as a significant revenue stream for the club that sadly traditional grass can’t compete with .'"

And we as a club that rents this

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I'm pretty sure that this opinion that Belle Vue has one of the best pitches is an opinion that is many years old that everyone clings to. I've seen it looking plenty muddy and messy on plenty of occasions. Better than the likes of Hull KR but no way better than the most of the other pitches in the top flight.

And the money will help.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "Nah, a pitch is a pitch. There was a time when Rugby pitches had longer grass but they are all trimmed to a few millimetres these days. There is no difference IMHO. BV is a brilliant natural pitch but is no match for say Hudds or Saints pitch, which is laser flat and I believe partly synthetic. Not sure about Wigan though I suspect it is not totally natural. Headingly maybe, I'm not sure but then Leeds have an excellent training facility.

I think Grass pitches have had their day at this level. It's the harsh cost of living for all sports.'"


I think Wigan has had a lot of drainage problems, which is why they've had to repair it so often during the rugby season, but I think it's sorted now.

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My dad used to say that BV was on top of a cinder base then sand and soil. I seem to remember while playing on the edge of the pitch as a very young boy this to be true.

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