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Quote: BarnsleyGull "Just to say that its the first dose that is the important one.
This gives at least 60% immunity, which is same as the highest rate for the flu jab.
The second dose is recommended at 21 days as that's what it revealed in the research.
Delaying the second dose will not make any difference,
Also, it obviously allows for many more people to receive the first dose and protect more of the public.'"


I'm fully accepting about the first dose giving a "good level" of protection and I agree about the importance of protecting as many people as possible as quickly as possible.
However, when the manufacturers themselves say that they haven't tested the vaccine with a 12 week gap between the 2 doses, it would seem prudent to be led by their advice.
Right now, I would trust Billy Liar himself above Bojo but, I certainly yield to your expertise, as you seem to have some additional information to that which is available to the masses.

There is a serious question on the back of your comments though and that is, IF the second dose "will not make any difference," then, why bother with a second dose at all. Both the Pfizer vaccine and the Oxford vaccine seem to advocate 2 doses at different times ?

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Quote: Willzay "Another national lockdown incoming. And after that I imagine it’ll go back to individual tiers.

At this rate I can’t see fans being allowed back in for the start of the season.'"

I think you may be right. I’m sure I’ve seen in the media, SL had a date o 11th March to start the season. That’s looking very doubtful, hopefully, the clubs have a streaming strategy (I know it’s not a word to use with SL management). I don’t have Sky Sports, but I watched trinity games last season, using the streaming service for Season ticket holders. I found this service more than satisfactory. Perhaps those who could afford it, invest in a season ticket. The whole family could watch a game with just the one ticket holder, until we can get back to live games.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I'm fully accepting about the first dose giving a "good level" of protection and I agree about the importance of protecting as many people as possible as quickly as possible.
However, when the manufacturers themselves say that they haven't tested the vaccine with a 12 week gap between the 2 doses, it would seem prudent to be led by their advice.
Right now, I would trust Billy Liar himself above Bojo but, I certainly yield to your expertise, as you seem to have some additional information to that which is available to the masses.

There is a serious question on the back of your comments though and that is, IF the second dose "will not make any difference," then, why bother with a second dose at all. Both the Pfizer vaccine and the Oxford vaccine seem to advocate 2 doses at different times ?'"


Its only the [idelay [/iof the second dose that will not make a difference.
You would have more immunity from the 1st dose of either of the vaccines than you would from the flu jab.
Oxford research says that the delay does not cause a reduction in immunity and actually shows a benefit.
Pfizer researched theirs at 21 days - that's not to say that more research into that would not allow it to be given further apart as standard.
The key is that you would be 70% protected from the 1st dose.
Hope that clears that up.

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I wonder if Sky Sports will want another refund this year.

This report today from love rugby league

Super League clubs are bracing themselves for a delay to the start of the 2021 season.
The campaign traditionally kicks off at the end of January but was put back by six weeks to March 11 after the 2020 season ran to the end of November and, with the coronavirus pandemic showing no sign of easing in the short term, another delay appears inevitable.

A recommendation is expected to be made by the league’s fixtures working party when it meets later this week and an announcement is due next week.

“The working group are looking at all the available options,” confirmed a Super League spokesperson.

Those options are likely to include a delay of one or two weeks but no decision will be made without the approval of television broadcaster Sky Sports, who is thought to be keen to get the season under way before the start of April.

The fixtures were due to be published in mid-January but the spokesperson confirmed that is now unlikely.

A delay would force a re-think on the planned 27-round format since the new season cannot realistically be extended beyond the scheduled October 9 Grand Final with the 2021 World Cup due to start a fortnight later.

Officials are unlikely to add to the players’ workload by arranging more midweek fixtures so a reduction in the number of games could put the Magic Weekend under threat.

Alternatively, clubs could decide to remove the four extra “loop” fixtures, even though it would mean reduced income.

A delay would also create more scope for the return of crowds, which is seen as essential for the long-term survival of the clubs.

It seems inevitable that matches will initially once more be played behind closed doors and in double or triple-headers at Covid-secure stadia and fixtures are set to be backloaded in the hope that the more attractive matches can be played in front of fans.

All Super League clubs, with the exception of Catalans Dragons, have returned to training and are undertaking Covid-19 testing but some are still awaiting the arrival of overseas players.

Meanwhile, the Championship and League 1 clubs will meet on Wednesday to debate their 2021 season, with the proposed start date of February 27 in serious doubt.

As with Super League clubs, they are viewed as elite sports so can play on during the pandemic but the Rugby Football League advised them to pause their pre-season training programmes for a fortnight after the Government brought in the latest lockdown.

The RFL also postponed the fixtures announcement as well as the draw for the first two rounds of the Challenge Cup.

The cup was due to get under way for the second and third-tier clubs on the first weekend of March and needs to get down to the last four before the Super League sides enter on the weekend of April 10.

Another key date will be Wednesday, January 20, when the RFL laws committee meet to discuss the rules for the 2021 competitions, with most interest centred on whether to bring back scrums.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "I wonder if Sky Sports will want another refund this year.
what a nightmare

This report today from love rugby league

Super League clubs are bracing themselves for a delay to the start of the 2021 season.
The campaign traditionally kicks off at the end of January but was put back by six weeks to March 11 after the 2020 season ran to the end of November and, with the coronavirus pandemic showing no sign of easing in the short term, another delay appears inevitable.

A recommendation is expected to be made by the league’s fixtures working party when it meets later this week and an announcement is due next week.

“The working group are looking at all the available options,” confirmed a Super League spokesperson.

Those options are likely to include a delay of one or two weeks but no decision will be made without the approval of television broadcaster Sky Sports, who is thought to be keen to get the season under way before the start of April.

The fixtures were due to be published in mid-January but the spokesperson confirmed that is now unlikely.

A delay would force a re-think on the planned 27-round format since the new season cannot realistically be extended beyond the scheduled October 9 Grand Final with the 2021 World Cup due to start a fortnight later.

Officials are unlikely to add to the players’ workload by arranging more midweek fixtures so a reduction in the number of games could put the Magic Weekend under threat.

Alternatively, clubs could decide to remove the four extra “loop” fixtures, even though it would mean reduced income.

A delay would also create more scope for the return of crowds, which is seen as essential for the long-term survival of the clubs.

It seems inevitable that matches will initially once more be played behind closed doors and in double or triple-headers at Covid-secure stadia and fixtures are set to be backloaded in the hope that the more attractive matches can be played in front of fans.

All Super League clubs, with the exception of Catalans Dragons, have returned to training and are undertaking Covid-19 testing but some are still awaiting the arrival of overseas players.

Meanwhile, the Championship and League 1 clubs will meet on Wednesday to debate their 2021 season, with the proposed start date of February 27 in serious doubt.

As with Super League clubs, they are viewed as elite sports so can play on during the pandemic but the Rugby Football League advised them to pause their pre-season training programmes for a fortnight after the Government brought in the latest lockdown.

The RFL also postponed the fixtures announcement as well as the draw for the first two rounds of the Challenge Cup.

The cup was due to get under way for the second and third-tier clubs on the first weekend of March and needs to get down to the last four before the Super League sides enter on the weekend of April 10.

Another key date will be Wednesday, January 20, when the RFL laws committee meet to discuss the rules for the 2021 competitions, with most interest centred on whether to bring back scrums.

Listen to The Final Hooter podcast, featuring exclusive interviews, every week. SUBSCRIBE to Love Rugby League on Apple Podcasts.'"


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I've written off Magic Weekend having read that. If we're not going to be starting the season with people in the grounds then it just isn't happening a few weeks later.

With way things are developing the postponement of the World Cup seems almost inevitable now as well.

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From what I’m getting as a chairman of a community club is there won’t be any community rugby until at the earliest 2nd weekend in April, there’s a community webenair this evening that will give us a more confirmed update, but if the community game is on hold I can only see championship and league 1 in the same boat and the March start date for SL looks highly unlikely, the FA are currently discussing a short stoppage of all soccer games at all level including premier league.

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