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Quote: ry21 "So he doesn't deserve more than the odd game here and there to prove himself?'"


I don't think he should get an 'odd' game at all.
If he's in for injury then he plays until the other guy shows he is better in training.
If he is in because he's better than Finn he stays there until he either proves he isn't good enough or Finn proves himself in training.
Changing 'just to see' doesn't benefit anyone.

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Ok how come the ball get's past slower when Finn is playing .How come the ball is not getting out to the wings .How come Miller is disappearing for the second half of matches.Hull match none of this happened .Rocky as played 7 again's Hull Leeds,and Cas . We have played Finn against Salford and Huddersfield so called lesser teams lost them both .Let give Rocky a go against a lesser team.Any body notice how the second half of most of the matches that Finn as played have seen a poor performance .Ok if we keep playing him let him come on for 20 mins sub him ,then come on for 20 mins again .Playing Finn for the full 80 mins is killing us.

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Quote: PopTart "I don't think he should get an 'odd' game at all.
If he's in for injury then he plays until the other guy shows he is better in training.
If he is in because he's better than Finn he stays there until he either proves he isn't good enough or Finn proves himself in training.
Changing 'just to see' doesn't benefit anyone.'"


I dont disagree that we shouldn’t change for changes sake, my point is people want a young, hungry half,with a point to prove. We have one of those already, and haven’t had to break the bank to sign him.

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Quote: PopTart "I don't think he should get an 'odd' game at all.
If he's in for injury then he plays until the other guy shows he is better in training.
If he is in because he's better than Finn he stays there until he either proves he isn't good enough or Finn proves himself in training.
Changing 'just to see' doesn't benefit anyone.'"


I agree with this but it isn't happening is it - and that's why such as Hampshire only get the odd game, because as soon as the guy they replace is fit, they are dropped.
I appreciate it's the coaches call, but it doesn't allow the replacing player to develop.

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Our attack in the oppositions 20 has been terrible all season- it has been masked by winning those close games early on---- LUCK???

we have close to the 2 fastest wingers in super league who never see the ball

I am afraid though we don't have answers to it in the current squad ! unless we buy a quality halfback mid season.


On our shopping list for next year must be a half back!!!!

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Quote: ry21 "I dont disagree that we shouldn’t change for changes sake, my point is people want a young, hungry half,with a point to prove. We have one of those already, and haven’t had to break the bank to sign him.'"


To say that people want a young hungry half is just ridiculous.
Im not bothered how young or old our halves are (or the rest of the side), people want to watch a side that plays open attacking RL and that wins a decent share of their games.
The only advantage of them being young is that, hopefully, they would have many more years to give the game.

Having said that, Finn isnt getting any younger and he's in the twilight of his career and what Trinity do need is a successor, to take on the role of HB.

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Quote: BOJ042 "Our attack in the oppositions 20 has been terrible all season- it has been masked by winning those close games early on---- LUCK???

we have close to the 2 fastest wingers in super league who never see the ball

I am afraid though we don't have answers to it in the current squad ! unless we buy a quality halfback mid season.


On our shopping list for next year must be a half back!!!!'"


But that exact backline got the ball to the wing all last season.
It isn't that they can't do it.

It's either someone with an injury affecting their play....like Finn
Or other teams working out a way to defend against us.....rushing the centres and Grix
Or other parts of our game are letting us down.....like ball control.

Or all three of course.

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I am sorry but he does slow the game. How many missed tackles, 40/20, penalties given away or breaks has he made. He is playing with broken fingers which cannot help but age is definitely catching up with him.

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His game management is getting slightly worse as well. How many times this season has he kicked for two only for the next set the opposition go down the other end and score 6.

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Quote: Willzay "His game management is getting slightly worse as well. How many times this season has he kicked for two only for the next set the opposition go down the other end and score 6.'"


I doubt that it's 100% his decision.

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Quote: Willzay "His game management is getting slightly worse as well. How many times this season has he kicked for two only for the next set the opposition go down the other end and score 6.'"


So he needs to be a psychic now as well ??
Equally you could say not taken the 2 and come away empty handed.

I think it's called sods law

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No dont think that part is his fault Wollo, on this one about taking the two, he cant win, as there has been several occasions when we should have taken the two, but didnt.

Im a believer that you should take the points on offer, especially if its kickable, and the game is still in the balance. It might not be the most entertaining, but it is part of game management

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "I doubt that it's 100% his decision.'"


I heard it's still down to John Kear holding the famous two fingers up from the 4th tier of the executive boxes. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "So he needs to be a psychic now as well ??
Equally you could say not taken the 2 and come away empty handed.

I think it's called sods law'"


When it happens again and again you have to question it. Happened at Hull last year too, and Hull were a man down at the time I think.

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Quote: Willzay "When it happens again and again you have to question it. Happened at Hull last year too, and Hull were a man down at the time I think.'"


Sorry but the decision to take the 2 is not down to Finn just because he kicks the goals and to suggest so is baffling.

Whether or not it comes from the coach or his assistants (Which most of the time I think it does, as we have seen many times on Sky the message get passed down to an assistant onto the players on the pitch).

You see players conferring between each other and come to a decision together, if anything it surely should be the leadership group in Kirmond and Miller that take ultimate responsibility for those decisions?

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