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Quote: The Avenger "Why thank you for for enlightening us!

The conversations not about you, it's about the wider game and the cynicism that's crept into it so get over yourself.'"



i meant to quote the post above from redscat (who really needs to put a space between s and c)

numerous threads seem to have appeared having a moan about fc, so i think it is quite relevant!

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Quote: GUBRATS "Cynicism or thuggery , which is more important to eradicate ?'"



I didn't realise is was an either or choice!

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Quote: wakeytrin "Remember last season when BJB got sin binned for not clearing the rook when he was down injured.'"


Nothing to crow about! We would be raven mad to not sort this out.
Wren it happens all the home fans owl for a penalty and milking is not ill eagle! However the milkers all look like tits... and the game is robin the fans of fair entertainment!

Should I duck for cover ???

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There's a simple answer.Coach to the rules.

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Quote: bren2k "But in that circumstance, you will often see the defender raise his arms and not attempt to affect the tackle - result - play on. For it to be the same - the attacker would have to run at the defender, then throw himself to the floor like a wendyball player, pretending that the defender has tackled him and thus, drawing the penalty.

It seems fairly straightforward to me - if the defender is clearly not impeding play and the ahb chucks the ball at him deliberately to draw the penalty - he should be penalised; and yes, I'd advocate that for all teams - including my own - because it's a cheap and grubby tactic that doesn't fit in RL.'"


but for me, he was impeding play. houghton wouldve had to do a looping pass or take a extra step to get round the player to get the ball away which wouldve resulted in a slower play.

the defender is supposed to roll away from the ruck which he didnt. he stayed near the ruck where the ball was played.

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Having watched the highlights I think the ref got all the main decisions right. The only one he didn't was the high shot by Kelly on Ashurst but he was the wrong side of that to see it so needed some help from the linesman.

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Quote: 4foxsake "Maybe before we go for the two refs approach we should actually get the touch judges and in goal referees to earn their corn rather than prance up and down the touch line ignorant of what's actually happening on the field.'"


Agreed - and I've been saying this for a while; the touch judges in particular are a waste of space. They are in prime position to help the ref with off-side and forward pass decisions, but rarely intervene - one or two will, or if a ref is running the line they'll get involved, but as a rule, they're not helping the ref at all.

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You could end up with the game littered with penalty kicks that either get you out of your own half or result in 2 points. It's a shambles that needs to be sorted.

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Merging "Right to milk" with "Unsporting conduct" one

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It's all about interpretation, yep Wakey were on the end of some discretionary decisions but we were winning until a dropped ball cost us.
We played the majority of the game with 3 subs.
Leigh got away with it and Hull got away with it, if the boot was on the other foot, it would have been a master stroke in beating a top 4 side.
Again, time to move on and build on that there were much more positives than negatives to take out of Sunday.

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Quote: Offy "but for me, he was impeding play. houghton wouldve had to do a looping pass or take a extra step to get round the player to get the ball away which wouldve resulted in a slower play.

the defender is supposed to roll away from the ruck which he didnt. he stayed near the ruck where the ball was played.'"


Your very own Gareth Ellis, Hull FC captain and 30+ capped GB & England international disagrees with you - he said he doesn't like to see it and it wants clamping down on?

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Quote: TrinityIHC "Your very own Gareth Ellis, Hull FC captain and 30+ capped GB & England international disagrees with you - he said he doesn't like to see it and it wants clamping down on?'"


just because he doesnt like to see it doesnt mean its wrong...does it?

i dont like to see players flapping around like a fish out of water trying to milk a penalty, but it doesnt mean its wrong to do so

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It does mean it is wrong to do so yes. That is unsportsman like behaviour.

However the point does stand that Hull got the penalty because he was blocking the ruck. The fact that Houghton threw the ball at him was simply a way to draw attention to it. He dhouldnt have to do that. Ref should have known.

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Quote: Offy "just because he doesnt like to see it doesnt mean its wrong...does it?

i dont like to see players flapping around like a fish out of water trying to milk a penalty, but it doesnt mean its wrong to do so'"


You mean like Sneyd flapping his arms at every tackle, looking for penalties to execute the game plan they had. It's a wonder he didn't take off. And before you say it, yes, our players do it as well. Another instance of wendyball behaviour creeping into our game.

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