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Quote: TRB "Tell you what, I'll go and write a spreadsheet, to be measured in terms of matches played, skill level, likeability....

I'll still think JD is a legend of recent years and no amount of 'downing' by you will make a jot of difference.

Why are we even having this debate - I don't have to prove anything here and I don't know why you had to be such a killjoy!

Bring in the games, then we can all debate something tangible!'"


You'er not having a debate with me and who said you had to prove anything, you're welcome to your opinion and you may well be right - but for me he didn't really do it, just a gut feeling don't need a spread sheets.The only person I took umbrage with was Cosmical and his OTT praise of a player who IMHO was not the 'saviour' of the club or 'Captain Marvel' or 'deserves a knighthood', sorry but that's idiotic as no one person ever in the history of W.T.RLFC deserves those title. I'll give you Captain Marvel at a pinch but we've had a few of those'

As I've stated he was a very good signing and if we could have him at Centre now I'd bite your hand off but I happen to think Solomona in particular was more important and Brough because he was hugely gifted and we created him. I am entitled to an opinion it is a forum and it's not as if I don't get shot down often enough for expressing them.

As for likability that's a bit subjective seeing as many of us never met him and I can't imagine him being dumb enough to be anything but polite to fans etc.

One things for sure he evokes much emotion in some - I'll mark it on my very long list of things I shouldn't express on here for fear of upsetting people. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: vastman "You'er not having a debate with me and who said you had to prove anything, you're welcome to your opinion and you may well be right - but for me he didn't really do it, just a gut feeling don't need a spread sheets.The only person I took umbrage with was Cosmical and his OTT praise of a player who IMHO was not the 'saviour' of the club or 'Captain Marvel' or 'deserves a knighthood', sorry but that's idiotic as no one person ever in the history of W.T.RLFC deserves those title. I'll give you Captain Marvel at a pinch but we've had a few of those'

As I've stated he was a very good signing and if we could have him at Centre now I'd bite your hand off but I happen to think Solomona in particular was more important and Brough because he was hugely gifted and we created him. I am entitled to an opinion it is a forum and it's not as if I don't get shot down often enough for expressing them.

As for likability that's a bit subjective seeing as many of us never met him and I can't imagine him being dumb enough to be anything but polite to fans etc.

One things for sure he evokes much emotion in some - I'll mark it on my very long list of things I shouldn't express on here for fear of upsetting people. icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Rach "Jason Demetriou will be back in the UK In Feb and is set tobe the Guest of Honour at the launch night of his former Keighley Team

, Brendon Rawlins Testimonial Year taking place Feb 16th venue to be announced .

If any Wakefield fans are interested in attending please email
So good as the debate is, it shouldn't be forgetten that the point of the thread was to highlight the fact that he is coming to Keighley
Rach has posted a link if you are interested in going.
Quote: Rach "Jason Demetriou will be back in the UK In Feb and is set tobe the Guest of Honour at the launch night of his former Keighley Team

, Brendon Rawlins Testimonial Year taking place Feb 16th venue to be announced .

If any Wakefield fans are interested in attending please email
So good as the debate is, it shouldn't be forgetten that the point of the thread was to highlight the fact that he is coming to Keighley
Rach has posted a link if you are interested in going.


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Danny Kirmond has only ever looked good when Tim Smith was making it so. Without Tim Smith he has at best looked average

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "Danny Kirmond has only ever looked good when Tim Smith was making it so. Without Tim Smith he has at best looked average'"


Kirmo hasn't looked fit for 2 seasons, with or without Smith at his side.

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Quote: vastman "You'er not having a debate with me and who said you had to prove anything, you're welcome to your opinion and you may well be right - but for me he didn't really do it, just a gut feeling don't need a spread sheets.The only person I took umbrage with was Cosmical and his OTT praise of a player who IMHO was not the 'saviour' of the club or 'Captain Marvel' or 'deserves a knighthood', sorry but that's idiotic as no one person ever in the history of W.T.RLFC deserves those title. I'll give you Captain Marvel at a pinch but we've had a few of those'

As I've stated he was a very good signing and if we could have him at Centre now I'd bite your hand off but I happen to think Solomona in particular was more important and Brough because he was hugely gifted and we created him. I am entitled to an opinion it is a forum and it's not as if I don't get shot down often enough for expressing them.

As for likability that's a bit subjective seeing as many of us never met him and I can't imagine him being dumb enough to be anything but polite to fans etc.

One things for sure he evokes much emotion in some - I'll mark it on my very long list of things I shouldn't express on here for fear of upsetting people.
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Never heard any Wakefield fan who didn't rate JD , imo legendary status is required for him ,oh sorry...... theres one ?

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Quote: vastman "If its from 2006 then in terms of pure talent which is what matters to me (so long as it comes with effort) then Danny Brough blows them all away, pre 2006 Solomona who is the best players I've seen at the club. He turned the club around in 2004 and gave us credibility for the first time since entering SL - he was after all a current NZ International - Ditto Henry Paul but it was a very short stint.'"



Really - Danny Brough - How did we make him ? He started as a junior having signed at 15 from Thornhill, played for our academy , never played in first team and signed for dews bury , after that he played for york hull castle ford and after his 2 year stint at trinity went to Huddersfield in 2010. If I remember he actually left with a year left to run on his contract.

So even if you include his academy days he played 12 years for other clubs and all his formative senior years at other teams. Thats before we even start on his well documented problems off the field.

A club legend isnt just about a few big games over a couple of seasons , he actually played for wakefield about 50 or 60 times

If you want to list what a club legend should be
Loyalty ?
Long serving ?
Likeable ? Matter of opinion
Leader on and off the field
Record or high point scoring career at the club ?
Enduring affection for the club


Contrast this to JD - 6 years at the club, played in 188 games, stayed when financially he would have been better served to move on, universally liked and respected (unless you are a miserable git) club captain, who still shows a continuing interest in the wildcats


I ve been watching for over 40 years and last 15 of them potential legends have been few and far between but Neil Fox, Johnny Thompson, nigel bell, probably in the modern era Garerth ellis , who was a junior that came good at the club.

Danny Brough really ?

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Brough Left in March and his contract was up at the end of that season and we sold him for an undisclosed fee. If you remember it was due to that deal we got Kirkmond on Loan at the time and Korkidas signed permanently.

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Quote: Kirmudgeonly "Really - Danny Brough - How did we make him ? He started as a junior having signed at 15 from Thornhill, played for our academy , never played in first team and signed for dews bury , after that he played for york hull castle ford and after his 2 year stint at trinity went to Huddersfield in 2010. If I remember he actually left with a year left to run on his contract.

So even if you include his academy days he played 12 years for other clubs and all his formative senior years at other teams. Thats before we even start on his well documented problems off the field.

A club legend isnt just about a few big games over a couple of seasons , he actually played for wakefield about 50 or 60 times

If you want to list what a club legend should be
Loyalty ?
Long serving ?
Likeable ? Matter of opinion
Leader on and off the field
Record or high point scoring career at the club ?
Enduring affection for the club


Contrast this to JD - 6 years at the club, played in 188 games, stayed when financially he would have been better served to move on, universally liked and respected (unless you are a miserable git) club captain, who still shows a continuing interest in the wildcats


I ve been watching for over 40 years and last 15 of them potential legends have been few and far between but Neil Fox, Johnny Thompson, nigel bell, probably in the modern era Garerth ellis , who was a junior that came good at the club.

Danny Brough really ?'"

Can't believe you(and others) haven't mentioned Toppo in any legends list!

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Quote: Shifty Cat "Brough Left in March and his contract was up at the end of that season and we sold him for an undisclosed fee. If you remember it was due to that deal we got Kirkmond on Loan at the time and Korkidas signed permanently.'"


I'm sure I read somewhere that we got £30k for him. Even still it didn't keep the club afloat for long.

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Quote: wildshot "I'm sure I read somewhere that we got £30k for him. Even still it didn't keep the club afloat for long.'"


It was around £30k, but what that doesn't tell you is how keen he was to go - for some reason he seemed to require a cash injection!

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That period just reminds me of all the positivity going in to that year off finishing 5th in 2009.Then signing Tronc and Newton and then suddenly it all started to go tits up for us in one way or the other.

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Quote: Kirmudgeonly "Really - Danny Brough - How did we make him ? He started as a junior having signed at 15 from Thornhill, played for our academy , never played in first team and signed for dews bury , after that he played for york hull castle ford and after his 2 year stint at trinity went to Huddersfield in 2010. If I remember he actually left with a year left to run on his contract.

So even if you include his academy days he played 12 years for other clubs and all his formative senior years at other teams. Thats before we even start on his well documented problems off the field.

A club legend isnt just about a few big games over a couple of seasons , he actually played for wakefield about 50 or 60 times

If you want to list what a club legend should be
Loyalty ?
Long serving ?
Likeable ? Matter of opinion
Leader on and off the field
Record or high point scoring career at the club ?
Enduring affection for the club


Contrast this to JD - 6 years at the club, played in 188 games, stayed when financially he would have been better served to move on, universally liked and respected (unless you are a miserable git) club captain, who still shows a continuing interest in the wildcats


I ve been watching for over 40 years and last 15 of them potential legends have been few and far between but Neil Fox, Johnny Thompson, nigel bell, probably in the modern era Garerth ellis , who was a junior that came good at the club.

Danny Brough really ?'"


What in gods sorry JDs name are you on about - get over yourself

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So whatever name you want to give him, I've never met anyone who doesn't respect JD for what he did for the club.
If you want to be picky about the word people use Vasty, you go right ahead, but as I read it, JD is one of if not the most liked and admired player of the modern era at Wakefield.

I've seen Neil Fox play as an old man. Topper play as a young and old man. They are legends of the club and in Neil's case a legend of the sport.
JD does not match it with them on playing ability or time at the club.

But they didn't play in the same erase and we haven't had legends like them at the club in a long time.

But for integrity, will to make something happen at Wakefield, support and leadership of the team in very tough times.....I put him right at the top.

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