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Can't seem to buy into this 'we wuz robbed' mentality about last night.
The ref wasn't that good but we should have still beaten Saints by about 12 points.
If people are happy to lose to a team with Wilkin and Wellens in the halves, plus playing all the second half with one sub, it amazes me.
Using the ref and ropey decisions as an excuse of why we didn't have enough composure or be able to do the basics right to beat Saints should be the real reason that people should be using.
Some on this thread accept that but some still look for excuses.
Last nights result was more frustrating than last Sunday.

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Can't seem to buy into this 'we wuz robbed' mentality about last night.
The ref wasn't that good but we should have still beaten Saints by about 12 points.
If people are happy to lose to a team with Wilkin and Wellens in the halves, plus playing all the second half with one sub, it amazes me.
Using the ref and ropey decisions as an excuse of why we didn't have enough composure or be able to do the basics right to beat Saints should be the real reason that people should be using.
Some on this thread accept that but some still look for excuses.
Last nights result was more frustrating than last Sunday.'"

Yeh we should have won more easy but there try that was offside and should not have counted is not an excuse its a fact.the try we got disallowed for forward pass was no more forward then 100s off passes that would not have been called forward.2 big points off the game he got wrong wich is a fact not excuse.

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Quote: Deeencee "Yeh we should have won more easy but there try that was offside and should not have counted is not an excuse its a fact.the try we got disallowed for forward pass was no more forward then 100s off passes that would not have been called forward.2 big points off the game he got wrong wich is a fact not excuse.'"

If we had been good enough, these points would have become irrelevant.
Good teams find a way of winning and not dwelling on what might have been.

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "If we had been good enough, these points would have become irrelevant.
Good teams find a way of winning and not dwelling on what might have been.'"

There 6 points that should not have counted and our 4 maybe 6 that should have would have made it 20 or 22-14 would you not have been happy with that score? Like you say we should have won anyway but doesn't take away the fact we should have won if the refs decisions were correct.so that's where we were robbed comes from

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I don't think people are looking for excuses as to why we lost. I think all accept there was a lack of composure at crucial times but likewise there was also some terrible refereeing which contributed massively towards the end result.

This was against the top side in SL who are paying up to their salary cap by a side that is no where near the salary cap. One that also got thrashed last week so it's a great step in the right direction with something to work on. eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Deeencee "There 6 points that should not have counted and our 4 maybe 6 that should have would have made it 20 or 22-14 would you not have been happy with that score? Like you say we should have won anyway but doesn't take away the fact we should have won if the refs decisions were correct.so that's where we were robbed comes from'"

Lets not forget that before these incidents happened, we were 12-6 up with no need to chase the game, just build pressure and work their one substitute.
Think Saints would have done that in the same situation.

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "Lets not forget that before these incidents happened, we were 12-6 up with no need to chase the game, just build pressure and work their one substitute.
Think Saints would have done that in the same situation.'"

And at 12-6 we scored a perfectly good try that got disallowed then they went up other end and scored so with correct decision we would have pulled away more and put more pressure on.at end off day not many teams will win sts with them wrong decisions going against them.

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Quote: Deeencee "And at 12-6 we scored a perfectly good try that got disallowed then they went up other end and scored so with correct decision we would have pulled away more and put more pressure on.at end off day not many teams will win sts with them wrong decisions going against them.'"


So did Saints when they were 6-0 up... Or is that conveniently forgotten? If Saints had of been awarded that try, Wakefields heads may of dropped after last week and it may of been another 40 point drubbing. Ifs buts and maybes.

The ref is never the reason a team loses.

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If Wellens had not left his foot trailing Hall goes on to score was it deliberate or not with Wellens looking at his foot ? ifs buts and maybes

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "The ref is never the reason a team loses.'"

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle ".....

The ref is never the reason a team loses.'"


Have you ever seen the 1968 Wembley Cup Final?
And yes, I am still bitter!!!!

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Hearing about other games like tonights, it seems refs can indeed alter games

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I see no-one is mentioning the try Saints had disallowed incorrectly for a forward pass in the first half, that would have made it at least 10-0? Or that Washbrook should have been sin binned for a late tackle on the kicker? The Turner try that was awarded was correct to my knowledge of the rules. He was offside from the kick, so has to be ten metres away from the catcher when he touches it. He was 10 metres away and then advanced, can't see what was wrong with it. Even if it was wrong, that makes it even for the incorrectly disallowed try in the first half.

I do agree that Wilkin was lucky not to see yellow for his high shot, or even if not for that one, he should have gone for persistent offending. Wakefield's forward pass no try looked correct to me. Passed before the ten metre line and caught on the ten metre line. TJ was bang in line with it too, a close call, but a correct one.

It's a huge stretch to say Wakefield were robbed. But they made the game a really good contest. If you focus on your home fixtures, then I think you've got a great chance of making the top 8.

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Quote: SRV "I see no-one is mentioning the try Saints had disallowed incorrectly for a forward pass in the first half, that would have made it at least 10-0? Or that Washbrook should have been sin binned for a late tackle on the kicker? The Turner try that was awarded was correct to my knowledge of the rules. He was offside from the kick, so has to be ten metres away from the catcher when he touches it. He was 10 metres away and then advanced, can't see what was wrong with it. Even if it was wrong, that makes it even for the incorrectly disallowed try in the first half.

I do agree that Wilkin was lucky not to see yellow for his high shot, or even if not for that one, he should have gone for persistent offending. Wakefield's forward pass no try looked correct to me. Passed before the ten metre line and caught on the ten metre line. TJ was bang in line with it too, a close call, but a correct one.

It's a huge stretch to say Wakefield were robbed. But they made the game a really good contest. If you focus on your home fixtures, then I think you've got a great chance of making the top 8.'"
at no point was he 10 yards away not when smith missed it or when hall touched it watch it again or go Specsavers.and what about wellens trip when hall would have been clear.and at the end were we got a scrum for knock on when it should have been a penalty for offside

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