Oh no what have you done Vasty. You poked him with a stick.

Let's stick to Owen on this one.
I find the Mariano conversations quite funny but it's not what we agree to talk about on the thread so we shouldn't really derail it.

Lets stick to Owen I agree. The biggest thing that annoys me about Owen is that his attitude stinks. 2 occassions last year Tim Smith told him off for not chasing his kicks this was infront of me Owens response was to shrug his shoulders. I swear on my mums life this happened. This is a Guy that would have been in Championship if Cas let his contract expire. We gave him a chance apart from 2 games his attitude stunk last year the Huddersfield and Hull KR game stick out most the guy couldn't even be bothad to catch the ball in the warm up. You tell me why he deserves a 3 year deal. Riley by all means top winger and a 100% tryer. Crazy by the club; Owen is a very very lucky boy, he needs to give his head a shake does he want to play rugby or not.

I think we all agree that his outward attitude and body language are horizontal at times but leave it to Tim Smith and the rest of his 'teammates' to give him the roastings.
Think he may take more notice of these.
Then he has two options, he either gets his finger out or slinks away and sulks.
3 years is a big contract but probably worth one of Vince Mellors?
It's a gamble but one that I'm prepared to see how it goes through the season.

Perhaps at the time he did not know who you were maybe you should have a word with him

The Owen 3 year deal thing seems to have wound everybody up but lets be honest, they haven't done it because they are rewarding him in some way, so the "deserves" bit isn't really the point.
The club and Webster in particular must think that over a 3 year period, we will get our money's worth out of him.
That is because
They know how much they are paying, and we don't
They know what plans they have for him, and we don't
They have had one to one conversations with him, and we don't

I don't like his style at all, and he winds me up. But I also think he has a lot of trys in him and if we can make it work it will be a big advantage to Wakefield Trinity.
We'll just have to wait and see. The deal is done so no point moaning about it now, and certainly no value in booing one of our own.

They are PT. He has turned down a very good job as a gamekeeper (which is on hold I believe) to prolong his playing career. He was ready to pack in RL 12 months ago.

What I mean is they are not rewarding him out of the kindness of their heart, they are paying him money for three years because they think they wil get benefit back for more value than they are paying.

Well then, if only for the bunnies and badgers sakes let's hope he's better at tackling poachers than he he is Rugby players.

Agreed - if he gets his head right WTW will have gem in Ritchard Owen and value for money. It can be done and maybe Webster is the man to do it.

Try poacher turned game keeper. don't let Eddie and Stevo get hold of that one.

So even more unprofrofessional by the club signing a player for 3 years that may not have the heart for RL anymore. He would be too slow as a game keeper.

What is it from "he has another job opportunity" that makes you think he hasn't got his heart in rugby league?

The fact when he pulls on a Trinity shirt he cannot be bothad.