God Mopsey took you a few hours and a few pints to change to your even daffter Tryscorer identity

It's not educating folk I leave that to know it alls like you and Avenger - I offer an alternative opinion, something you Sincerity Whitebread types just can't cope with, boo hoo.

It's a valid and reasonable and possible explanation as to why the GF team didn't make it - never said it was fact. I mean how can a mere mortal like myself be as well informed as you "in the know" wallers, how very dare I have a different opinion

Yes you did and from the same people who are now Kear/Agar bashing - but you see that one no longer suits their agenda.

You see I was right vasty you don't know what your on about if you included me referring to any personal problems walshaw had never mentioned owt like that I'll admit to bashing agar who you can't put in the same class has kear as a coach

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a moment. It is fair to say in the eyes of many fans Walshaw didn't appear to get many opportunities, but how many of us are as knowledgeable about the players as the coaching staff are? One other thing we can lament all day long about this or that player was good enough, but how many of our younger players (who many fans rated) have gone to lower league teams and come back to haunt us. I would suggest not as many as we would like to believe.

Shame you never had anything good to say about Kear when he was here

Edited for accuracy.

The thing is, if you've been outbid on a player by a championship club with all that entails (lower cap, lower league) then surely that's not a good thing for your club.

Welcome to the Bradford Bulls rule of financial management.

Ah, so you don't agree that your club being outbid on players by lower league clubs to be a bad thing or that it sets off any sort of alarm bells for you?

Nope it means that the club have a limit on what they can spend and won't push beyond it. Carter has said Trinity have £1.5m cap spend next year. As gutted as I am about losing Walshaw, I'd not want the club to spend what they don't have.

I would be quite worried though If my club suddenly started spending like its going out of fashion and we had nearly gone out of existence twice recently. Oh and I love the £25 season ticket for 0-4 year olds.

The thing is we are not as desperate as you are to sign players'which are not up to standard as proven by the number of ordinary players' signed by your club, when you sign ordinary players' you can pay them ordinary wages which then will allow you to occasionally afford a player with potential, this is clearly the case at Bradford where you have brought players' on the cheap allowing you to offer a deal to a player our club felt was not worth as much as your club did, just hope for his sake there's no more of that liquidation mularky at Bradford

It depends upon the relative valuation placed on the player by the clubs involved.
We may not see Walshaw as being as essential to our squad as Bradford do to him in theirs.

I'll tell you what I view as a bad thing which rings alarm bells for me, a club that's got a track record of delusional spending that has fans who still think it's a good idea for clubs to spend more on players than their budgets allow for.

No alarm bells ringing here. Our chairman knows our spending limits and is ruling the books with an iron fist.

Bradford on the other hand...