FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > 2015 player annoucment |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 567 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2023 | Apr 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Calm Waters don't make good sailors
If you help somebody as you go along then your life hasn't been in vain: |
|
| Quote: Khlav Kalash "www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/scruton-agrees-two-year-deal/2014/07/
He's certainly saying the right things.'"
Nick Scruton wrote:
I didn’t think it (the transfer) would have affected my game as much as it did but those first few weeks I was garbage and some of the fans didn’t hesitate in telling me. I’ve not had that for a long time so I’m just glad I’m starting to show people what I’m capable of and why Wakefield signed me, and I’ve been rewarded with a two-year deal. As a prop forward at my age, hopefully I’ll be playing my best rugby for Wakefield Wildcats
I'm happy with this signing and think he's bang on in his thoughts. He admits to not being up to scratch. Change is one of the hardest things in life and to leave a club he clearly loved must have been difficult. You can't switch on and love another club over night nor would I want badge kissing. He's growing to like the place and hopefully he'll love it as much if not more by the end of his stay. He's now showing a good run of form and I think and he states he feels his best years are ahead of him. If anyone sees anything wrong here please say.
There's been many a big named signings crashed and burned in all sports, Willie Mason, Torres etc. You never know and have to take educated risks. I'd have taken this one and hope he rips it up. If anyone questions his loyalty I'm sure Nick choosing us should put that to bed! Lets get on and support the lad!!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 1470 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quite clearly he wasn't playing to the best of his ability early on but what I would say is who was under Agar this season? He seems to be warming to the place and if he starts enjoying his rugby and the fans get behind him I truly belief we'll have a cracking player.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5507 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Nov 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
16551_1431692096.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16551.jpg |
|
| The Scruton under Agar wasn't worth a deal. The Scruton under Webster is. If he is now settled and can keep up his recent form then its a good move.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5507 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Nov 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
16551_1431692096.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16551.jpg |
|
| Quote: A unknown superstar "Apparently linked with Richard Horne for next season, if he carries on after this season.'"
As assistant coach i presume? If its as a player it would be a poor move.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 5256 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif :Black Backgrounds/Sam%20the%20Eagle.gif |
|
| Yes sadly three or four seasons ago yes but not now plus as stated I believe if he retires he is joining the Hull coaching staff.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 9342 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2020 | May 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Black Backgrounds/Statler.gif "You don't have to be great to start, but to be great you have to start".:Black Backgrounds/Statler.gif |
|
| Apparently if he is to carry on playing you'll be interested, but he's expected to join our coaching staff more than likely our 19s coach.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15521 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2020 | May 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
50722_1319672516.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg |
|
| I think we should steer clear of Horne - he's done.
A couple of months ago, I'd have balked at Scruton, but the way he's played the past few games, this is a good signing; a relatively young (in prop years) English forward who, on a good day, is a really destructive runner. If JW can coax more good days than bad out of him, he'll be a great addition.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 21001 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
41119.jpg A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha:41119.jpg |
Moderator
|
| Personally I like a strong 4 prop team.
Anderson, Scruton, Moore and Tautai are really good for us, with Smith and Raleigh as cover
We need to sign up Moore and replace Tautai with an impact prop. I'm thinking the young props are not ready to step up yet and I quite like Smith as 13 sometimes so good to have a good option to use instead of him as 100% prop.
The props in modern day are really important for a successful team. We are building pretty well there.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 3629 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2023 | Mar 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
10466_1341959799.jpg [img:34ro2ar1]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/upthecats.gif[/img:34ro2ar1]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10466.jpg |
|
| A good signing.....will be even better now he's settled and wants to be here....hopefully can settle in fully and rediscover some of that form that got him into the England set up.....
It just shows though how easy it is to find scapegoats when the team are being beaten and not performing to their best....and then heap praise when we are winning and things are going well....
Statistically Scruton's first 3 games under Webster were below what he was generally achieving before....his carries, metres made and average gain were poor in comparison.....he bettered them in 7 of his previous 12 games....his all round stats (under Webster) average around what he has been doing the whole season....give or take a couple of good performances and a couple of bad ones.....so there really hasn't been the major improvement everyone seems to be seeing....or at least the stats don't suggest so
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 13788 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2006 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
29100_1291104497.jpg 1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg |
|
| Quote: upthecats "A good signing.....will be even better now he's settled and wants to be here....hopefully can settle in fully and rediscover some of that form that got him into the England set up.....
It just shows though how easy it is to find scapegoats when the team are being beaten and not performing to their best....and then heap praise when we are winning and things are going well....
Statistically Scruton's first 3 games under Webster were below what he was generally achieving before....his carries, metres made and average gain were poor in comparison.....he bettered them in 7 of his previous 12 games....his all round stats (under Webster) average around what he has been doing the whole season....give or take a couple of good performances and a couple of bad ones.....so there really hasn't been the major improvement everyone seems to be seeing....or at least the stats don't suggest so
I'll go with my own eyes and Scruton's admission that he found it tough at the beginning of his time here, Catalans game aside. Also a wide range of posters clearly have seen an improvement in the guy. I think the major difference is how he takes the ball in. Previously it was a bit of a trundle, now he takes it up full pelt. For a prop that's the most obvious contribution to the game for supporters so that's could be why the stats suggest there has bee no major change dispute most people's thoughts.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 17979 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
simpsons/simp006.gif :simpsons/simp006.gif |
|
| Scrutton does finally look like he's finding some decent form.
Whether this is down to the change of coach or just realizing that his future is at Wakefield (and not Bradford) doesn't matter.
The guy is a good quality prop and we should be pleased that he is in form and on board for 2 more years.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 160 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2016 | Aug 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| I thought Horne played well against us -injected pace and good ball distribution.
It goes without saying that out priority should be the signing of Tim Smith, but much of that is probably out of our control, at least for now.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15521 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2020 | May 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
50722_1319672516.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50722.jpg |
|
| Quote: Khlav Kalash "I'll go with my own eyes and Scruton's admission that he found it tough at the beginning of his time here, Catalans game aside. Also a wide range of posters clearly have seen an improvement in the guy. I think the major difference is how he takes the ball in. Previously it was a bit of a trundle, now he takes it up full pelt. For a prop that's the most obvious contribution to the game for supporters so that's could be why the stats suggest there has bee no major change dispute most people's thoughts.'"
Absolutely - what stats don't tell you is the damage a destructive prop forward does when he hits the line; metres gained may be broadly the same, but stats don't account for the physical and psychological toll it inflicts on the opposition defenders to keep having to put themselves in front of a big 'orrible prop forward.
He is without question an improved player in recent weeks - stats be damned!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 394 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| I would have thought that Craig Hall would be able to do a better job than Horne if put into the halfbacks.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2477 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2012 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2019 | Jul 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
68436_1348124028.png Wakefield Trinity Wildcats:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68436.png |
|
| Just listened to his Radio Leeds interview and he was talking about Timmy screaming at him on the field no wonder the lad is running on to the ball!
Been solid for us since TS and JW came in.
|
|
|
|
|
|