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Quote: The Avenger "If we lose to Bradford and London it's 2006 all over again with Agar playing the role of Smith but who would be John Kear!

Before anyone says John Kear, no thanks
Dour rugby
Decimated the youth setup
His time is past

Morrison and JD don't have the necessary experience either so not them'"

I don't think Morrison or JD have the experience but one is a former State of Origin player and the other one has Trin in his blood.
These two although green would command respect and get players motivated due to their differing career paths.
At the risk of going over very old ground, RA doesn't seem to have the necessary experience at this level but has been given ample time to prove it.

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Fairly pointless poll - you could have 100 % saying GO but makes no difference - the club will never sack him and he won't resign.

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The crowd against Wire is the first real indication that the natives are becoming restless.
Polls and threads are pointless apart to get stuff off your chest that irritates you.
For some people to keep defending bizarre selections, useless use of interchanges and baffling loans, in and out, I can't see how they can.
It's good but not good that fans are giving a clear indication of where they think this team is being lead.

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Quote: "Morrison and JD don't have the necessary experience either so not them'"


There were 5 possibly six players played out of position on Sunday. Also 3 props against a big, strong, and very physical pack. If that's an experienced coach we might as well put the tea lady in charge.

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Quote: FickleFingerOfFate "The crowd against Wire is the first real indication that the natives are becoming restless.
Polls and threads are pointless apart to get stuff off your chest that irritates you.
For some people to keep defending bizarre selections, useless use of interchanges and baffling loans, in and out, I can't see how they can.
It's good but not good that fans are giving a clear indication of where they think this team is being lead.'"


Agreed.
3 1/2 thousand is our lowest SL attendance for a vey long time.
We seem to be at a similar crossroads to the one that Cas arrived at under Milward.
Poor team no effort and with leader (Agar) that didn't have the respect of either the players or the supporters.
They were brave enough to make a change and look t them now.
MC, you've already save the club from admin. but we now need you to save us from Mr Agar, PLEASE

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Agreed.
3 1/2 thousand is our lowest SL attendance for a vey long time.
We seem to be at a similar crossroads to the one that Cas arrived at under Milward.
Poor team no effort and with leader (Agar) that didn't have the respect of either the players or the supporters.
They were brave enough to make a change and look t them now.
MC, you've already save the club from admin. but we now need you to save us from Mr Agar, PLEASE'"

It was after a poor crowd of around 3K last year that Cas acted and finally got shut of Millward and they haven't looked back since. Sadly i don't think our chairman has any intention of removing our own under-performing coach from his role so we will just continue to limp along.

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there were very few from warrington to be fair !

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Quote: chissitt "At the end of the season maybe, not sure mid season is a good idea to get rid of a coach especially with the position we are in at the moment.'"

When would a good time be? end of season when we've been relegated?
needs pro-active action before its too late and we're 2nd bottom or worse

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IF we lose on Sunday, and IF the bulls get points back, unquestionably Agar has shown he is not the man to lead us out of this quandary.
For me the club not replacing him would be an act of self sabotage.
Even if the Bulls don't get points back, losing twice against our nearest rivals in the fight for survival/relegation should see him shown the door.
Failing to act on this would be hugely counter productive IMO.

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...all that said I think we will win on Sunday and the Bulls will get nish from the independent panel.

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I've said all along I believe our poorer performances are more down to losing to better sides, been short of players etc....more than down to the coach and I've defended the experimenting and the early form with needing time to gel, no pre season etc.......but......

These 2 next games are games we should be expecting to win though....the table isn't telling lies....we are about the 3rd worst team in the league just behind Salford and a few others...everything about us as a club dictates that should be about where we should be.....but I believe with potential to be amongst those 3 or 4 teams above us....the bottom 2 have been a far bit worse so they are games we should be winning....

If we fail to win those two games then I will gladly hold my hand up and say there is no excuse any more....the coach and the players we have available should be good enough to get 4 points......

If we win those next 2 we will be in a much healthier place and can hopefully enjoy the last 3rd of the season......maybe start getting a few out of contract players sorted for next season and look at new signings to replace what we are losing.....if we do win the next two will fans lay off all the Agar out stuff for now and get right behind and support the club until the season end....I wonder?

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Quote: upthecats "if we do win the next two will fans lay off all the Agar out stuff for now and get right behind and support the club until the season end....I wonder?'"

I'll support the club, I will not support the guy who is killing it.

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Quote: Theboyem "It was after a poor crowd of around 3K last year that Cas acted and finally got shut of Millward and they haven't looked back since. Sadly i don't think our chairman has any intention of removing our own under-performing coach from his role so we will just continue to limp along.'"



I think the end came for Millward came after we lost to London at home. I've never in all my years as a Cas supporter known anything like it. London had probably brought a dozen fans and they were the only fans in the ground you could hear. No booing from the cas fans just a stunned silence at what we were witnessing. however every cloud has a silver lining and it spelt the end for Millward. The improvement started almost immediately when Danny Orr took temp control. It may not be a bad thing if you lose both games to dulls and London.

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