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As has been suggested - 1 up, 1 down and the return of minimum standards, which appear to have been quietly shelved, right about the time that several clubs half killed themselves to implement, whilst others sat on their hands.
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This could well be the most important development in our own bid for long term survival. Another year in the top flight could be almost guaranteed with this delay. Spare a thought for those who have bought big for 2014 in the belief that 2 will be relegated. This may no longer be the case...
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The RFL should be having a meeting under the heading of
"How do we attract more investment into Rugby League".
If we can increase the revenue coming into the game, many of the changes don't need to happen and we could reverse the ludicrous situation over the senior academies and dual reg.
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| Quote: gowerthegroap "This could well be the most important development in our own bid for long term survival. Another year in the top flight could be almost guaranteed with this delay. Spare a thought for those who have bought big for 2014 in the belief that 2 will be relegated. This may no longer be the case...'"
I think the likes of Wigan and the 2 Hull clubs are all for a 10 club SL. This stand-off might cause a delay for a season like you say but in the long-term could be disasterous for the likes of Wakey and Cas. |
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with minimum standards back on the cards getting moved into Newmarket ASAP is essential . Business plan back on track new stadium decent sized City we could make the grade
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "with minimum standards back on the cards getting moved into Newmarket ASAP is essential . Business plan back on track new stadium decent sized City we could make the grade'"
The minimum standards thing is fairly straight forward, so long as they don't change the criteria part way through the season etc.
IF this is the route that the RFL are going down then, we should know at the start of the season who would be eligible for promotion AND what would happen if the "top" club in the CC wasn't up to the grade ie would the promotion spot go to the highest placed eligible club or would the bottom club retain their top flight status.
It has to be transparent and without the perceived protectionism that has gone on in the past. |
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Maybe the top owners are fedup with puting money in to keep clubs competative,while the RFL sit back and watch the demise.They must get sponsers if we want to go forward,if they cant,get someone who can TOP PRIORITY.
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "with minimum standards back on the cards getting moved into Newmarket ASAP is essential . Business plan back on track new stadium decent sized City we could make the grade'"
As stated by Blake Solly last night the size of stadium would not be a criteria. As long as it was safe and good enough for Sky to broadcast in HD, you could have a capacity of 5K. The fact that obviously from a business point of view NM would be better means its a must but it won't matter standards wise, Belle Vue would be good enough.
In any case Newmarket is a long way off yet i'm afraid. 5 years at least despite what some might want to tell you. |
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| Quote: sixtogo "In any case Newmarket is a long way off yet i'm afraid. 5 years at least despite what some might want to tell you.'"
I disagree slightly. With the recent deal regarding the freezer plant we are much closer. The problem being is that the 106 agreement only provides £9M in funding.
We could therefore be very near to starting construction of a small stadium that could be developed and improved at a later date. However if you want to make sure all the funding is in place for a 12K stadium then yes you are correct this could be a while before sufficient financial resources are gathered.
With what was suggested last night I would prefer a start on a stadium to fit the £9M budget and then look to improve. |
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The RFL's latest proclamation on this is laughable; they are suggesting that their failure to market the game properly or to achieve a main sponsor is because they've been too busy micro-managing individual clubs. That has all the hallmarks of desperation and doesn't cut it with me - for example, what exactly were their commercial and marketing teams so tied up with in terms of 'micro-managing' that they were unable to deliver results in their real jobs?
Looks like interesting times ahead for the game; if this disgruntled group of SL chairmen becomes a genuine breakaway, the Sky money would quickly follow and so would the rest of the clubs, and that would be the end of the RFL.
Viva la revolution I say - it's time the sport was governed by people with the appropriate level of skill, business acumen and intelligence to extract maximum value from what is still an excellent product, but criminally under-valued.
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| Quote: bren2k "The RFL's latest proclamation on this is laughable; they are suggesting that their failure to market the game properly or to achieve a main sponsor is because they've been too busy micro-managing individual clubs. That has all the hallmarks of desperation and doesn't cut it with me - for example, what exactly were their commercial and marketing teams so tied up with in terms of 'micro-managing' that they were unable to deliver results in their real jobs?
Looks like interesting times ahead for the game; if this disgruntled group of SL chairmen becomes a genuine breakaway, the Sky money would quickly follow and so would the rest of the clubs, and that would be the end of the RFL.
Viva la revolution I say - it's time the sport was governed by people with the appropriate level of skill, business acumen and intelligence to extract maximum value from what is still an excellent product, but criminally under-valued.'"
Be careful what you wish for - if it were to be the end of the RFL then SL (or son of SL) would be IMO a closed shop of 10 or so clubs with no p and r - and we wouldn't be in it.
Top level RL would be lost to this district because of short sighted greedy chairmen.
Im no fan of the buffoons at Red Hall , but this would be disastrous for our club, district and rugby playing youth. |
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| Quote: kinleycat "Be careful what you wish for - if it were to be the end of the RFL then SL (or son of SL) would be IMO a closed shop of 10 or so clubs with no p and r - and we wouldn't be in it.
Top level RL would be lost to this district because of short sighted greedy chairmen.
Im no fan of the buffoons at Red Hall , but this would be disastrous for our club, district and rugby playing youth.'"
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| Quote: bren2k "The RFL's latest proclamation on this is laughable; they are suggesting that their failure to market the game properly or to achieve a main sponsor is because they've been too busy micro-managing individual clubs. That has all the hallmarks of desperation and doesn't cut it with me - for example, what exactly were their commercial and marketing teams so tied up with in terms of 'micro-managing' that they were unable to deliver results in their real jobs?
Looks like interesting times ahead for the game; if this disgruntled group of SL chairmen becomes a genuine breakaway, the Sky money would quickly follow and so would the rest of the clubs, and that would be the end of the RFL.
Viva la revolution I say - it's time the sport was governed by people with the appropriate level of skill, business acumen and intelligence to extract maximum value from what is still an excellent product, but criminally under-valued.'"
The problem for any break away group is that the RFL own the rules to the game or at least the clubs who sanction the RFL as their governing body do. If a big 10 broke away and things became acrimonious between them and the other 20+ member clubs then I doubt the 10 would be given permission to play Rugby League as we know it. |
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Ive just copied some of the text from sky sports news take on this story (it is of course acompanied by a smug picture of Woods), it readsThe shock development is an embarrassing climbdown for the governing body and threatens to undermine the credibility of RFL chief executive Nigel Wood, who was the driving force behind the policy review.
Lenagan called a meeting of Super League clubs in Warrington on Monday when it is thought they agreed to put pressure on the RFL to apply the breaks to the restructuring proposals.
The Wigan owner is concerned that the plans would weaken the financial position of Super League clubs in comparison to those in the Championship, who would receive more central funding under the reorganisation.
It is also believed Lenagan urged representatives at Monday's meeting to stick with a 14-team division, even though the Super League clubs had three times voted to go down to 12.
The proposals on the table for Wednesday's egm had been to either have straight-forward promotion and relegation between two divisions of 12 or introduce a convoluted system in which the two divisions divide into three leagues of eight after 23 rounds."
I've highlighted the bit i found most incredulous as i wasn't aware Woods had any credibility!!
It shows that there is a real threat from the powerful chairmen that can very eassily destabilise the RFL.
It shows they are not very caring for clubs out of the SL and do not wish for them to benefit financialy when we all know that the only way of making p and r work is by closing the gap between SL and the Championship and making it sustainable.
Is P and R back off the menu, despite wanting a 12 team SL are they now wanting a 14 team competition?
I think these are worrying times in the game, change may well need to come but whether everyone benefits is at the moment anyones guess.
Proceed with extreme caution!!
Full report here:
www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ring-plans |
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Ive just copied some of the text from sky sports news take on this story (it is of course acompanied by a smug picture of Woods), it readsThe shock development is an embarrassing climbdown for the governing body and threatens to undermine the credibility of RFL chief executive Nigel Wood, who was the driving force behind the policy review.
Lenagan called a meeting of Super League clubs in Warrington on Monday when it is thought they agreed to put pressure on the RFL to apply the breaks to the restructuring proposals.
The Wigan owner is concerned that the plans would weaken the financial position of Super League clubs in comparison to those in the Championship, who would receive more central funding under the reorganisation.
It is also believed Lenagan urged representatives at Monday's meeting to stick with a 14-team division, even though the Super League clubs had three times voted to go down to 12.
The proposals on the table for Wednesday's egm had been to either have straight-forward promotion and relegation between two divisions of 12 or introduce a convoluted system in which the two divisions divide into three leagues of eight after 23 rounds."
I've highlighted the bit i found most incredulous as i wasn't aware Woods had any credibility!!
It shows that there is a real threat from the powerful chairmen that can very eassily destabilise the RFL.
It shows they are not very caring for clubs out of the SL and do not wish for them to benefit financialy when we all know that the only way of making p and r work is by closing the gap between SL and the Championship and making it sustainable.
Is P and R back off the menu, despite wanting a 12 team SL are they now wanting a 14 team competition?
I think these are worrying times in the game, change may well need to come but whether everyone benefits is at the moment anyones guess.
Proceed with extreme caution!!
Full report here:
www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... ring-plans | |
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| Quote: kinleycat "It shows that there is a real threat from the powerful chairmen that can very eassily destabilise the RFL.
It shows they are not very caring for clubs out of the SL and do not wish for them to benefit financialy when we all know that the only way of making p and r work is by closing the gap between SL and the Championship and making it sustainable.'"
This is the point, for mine. I suspect they want something similar to the Australian model, with feeder clubs who would then receive some financial support directly from the top clubs they're feeding, rather than continuing to operate as smaller, independent clubs and receiving a larger share of the funds from the RFL.
I don't know whether the British public would buy into an idea like that. It seems to contradict a lot of the values that define our sporting nation. |
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