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| As a Fev fan, I wouldn't be against a merger with Wakefield. I wouldn't want Cas anywhere near it though.
While there is a rivalry with Wakefield, I have much more affinity with you than I do Cas. I go to three or four Trinity games every year as a corporate guest.
The question is though, what would we gain? We are in a far stronger financial position than you and we believe we can make SL on our own once the restructure comes in.
The only thing we have to gain from a merger is early entry to SL, I don't think it's a price worth paying.
Hope you get things sorted
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| Newmarket would be the obvious location if we were to merge with Cas. Pool resources, get rid of the grounds and start again. I would support that. Both Cas and us would have to cease to exist though for any chance of it to work. I would also welcome Feath if they wanted to join but they appear (despite being in the Championship) to currently be the best run and most promising club so I'm not sure if they would be interested.
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| The reason it would be attractive to Fev is that no matter how well run they are, they will never, ever, EVER get enough people through the gates to be a viable SL club; they look likely to go up next season and that will be the beginning of the end for them.
I realise it's a tough sell, but in the current economic climate and with the game's future structure stitched up by the RFL and a few wealthy clubs, the only way to maintain top flight RL in the district is to think outside the box; Cas are on a knife egde and always have been - it's no use talking about the stadium as an asset when in actual fact, it is has no real value - if they monetised the 'asset,' they'd have nowhere to play and it wouldn't realise enough to build a new stadium. They're also massively in hock to an aging chairman. Fev are doing some good stuff but as I've said, they will never be sustainable in SL due to the tiny number of supporters.
I'm not necessarily advocating this as something that I'd want, but it seems to me to be the only solution to the different problems faced by all 3 clubs; without a Davy or a Kockrash, all of us are doomed to drop out of SL - it's all well and good a few old farts like us saying 'I'd rather watch lower league than a merged team,' but that's rather missing the wider value of a top flight team; fewer kids would participate in the sport for starters and those who did and were any good, would be hoovered up by Leeds, Shudds etc. Working together might not suit some of us, but we'll be pushing up daisies soon and unable to buy a season ticket - for that reason, a lot of our invective should be ignored.
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| Quote: 18th Man "Newmarket would be the obvious location if we were to merge with Cas. Pool resources, get rid of the grounds and start again. I would support that. Both Cas and us would have to cease to exist though for any chance of it to work. I would also welcome Feath if they wanted to join but they appear (despite being in the Championship) to currently be the best run and most promising club so I'm not sure if they would be interested.'"
I dont want to start digging up old arguments here but for a start off deffinatly no to a merger for the 1001 reasons gone over in the past and as for playing at Newmarket (what Newmarket) there is nothing there and not likely to be any time soon, sorry but thats the cold hard truth of it, there is as much at Glasshoughton as there is at Newmarket NOTHING.
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| With the new league structure coming in it would propably see us fev & cas playing each other in the middle league which will attract big crowds and to be honest it will be better than the non event that SL is now
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| If it was to work each club would have to feel that they were equal partners as well as the fans.
Ideas for that would be some sort of arrangement where Cas colours home kit, wakey colours away kit, Fev colours cup games and u19s with it reversing the following season.
You would need some sort of museum at the new ground charting each teams individual history , hall of famers etc and how it led to a merged team.
You would need to look at subsidised transport from each teams old ground. Town centre to any new stadium ( at least for three years to get things established).
Each team to have amateur semi pro teams in the second or third tier with the best players feeding through to the merged team.
A clear support from the merged team to all the amateur teams in the Local area to build links.
A number of supporter events to build links between fans of both teams ( a bit like Sam's team on SKY).
Sponsorship from local firms feeding in etc.
To be fair as unpalatable as it is it is the only way to go IMHO.
And i know that the Giants would dissappear without Ken Davy before anyone throws it in.
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| can't believe we been through this talk so many times in yrs past
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| Super League has got far to expensive for the majority of teams, it is only top flight teams like Salford, Huddersfield and Leeds who have backers with lots of cash that are enjoying the ride, the rest are hanging on by the skin of their teeth and trying to sweep their problems under the carpet. SL will in a few years die because it cannot sustain itself, the governing body is trying to retail SL to Premier League football and it will never happen, why? because it is too expensive. Look at us, new stands to pacify the RFL, we are also threatened that if we don't get a new stadium we will be out of SL by default. Who the hell do these people think they are? Sky sports put lots of cash into SL but they practically run it to meet their own ends they don't give a monkeys what knot about the fans its all about getting paying viewers. It would be great if we could go back to the good old days with the BBC involved.
I would not support a merger, I support Wakefield Trinity.
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| Wakefield Trinity forever merger never
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| If any sort of merger were to happen I would support the newly merged team.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "If any sort of merger were to happen I would support the newly merged team.'"
As would I - it would be sad at first and maybe a lot of it would be curiosity value but over time, it would build its own traditions and history and with a bit of success on the field, could attract a massive fan base from all over the district. All 3 clubs would bring tremendous value to the table - WTW, whilst cash poor, would bring a new stadium and the keys to the city.
Done properly, it could secure RL in the District for generations to come - I love the game, so that's what interests me the most.
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| No to a merger from me. That would be me and RL done.
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| Quote: bren2k "As would I - it would be sad at first and maybe a lot of it would be curiosity value but over time, it would build its own traditions and history and with a bit of success on the field, could attract a massive fan base from all over the district. All 3 clubs would bring tremendous value to the table - WTW, whilst cash poor, would bring a new stadium and the keys to the city.
Done properly, it could secure RL in the District for generations to come - I love the game, so that's what interests me the most.'"
That 's exactly how I,now an old git, see things Bren.
People cannot really be lovers of RL if they say merger would lead to them disassociating themselves from the great game.
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| Quote: jacques "That 's exactly how I,now an old git, see things Bren.
People cannot really be lovers of RL if they say merger would lead to them disassociating themselves from the great game.'"
Wakefield first, RL a distant second. Might watch the odd game on tv but i wouldn't spend a dime on a merged team. But there is plenty more to life than rugby league, i'd find something else to do with my time and money.
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| Quote: Theboyem "Wakefield first, RL a distant second. Might watch the odd game on tv but i wouldn't spend a dime on a merged team. But there is plenty more to life than rugby league, i'd find something else to do with my time and money.'"
You would.
At first, you'd sit at home with your arms folded and bottom lip firmly out; then you'd see snippets on the news about the new stadium being built and the WY super-club signing some marquee players and your interest would be piqued. Then you'd watch a game on telly and see the new stadium rocking and Daryl Powell coaching the team to victory. Then you'd sneak to a game or two to see what all the fuss was about. Then you'd buy a ST and take your kids and watch the new club finish in the 8 and make a decent fist of the play-offs. Maybe even a CC run that involved actually beating a SL team or two, then you'd be hooked.
And so it goes.
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